Oct 7 2013
The Liberation of the Death Camps
How Dare I, with thanks to Ann
The article below from the ‘How dare I’ website, documents the liberation of prisoners from the so called Nazi Extermination/concentration camps.
“yawn”.
Why yawn voice of reason?
“Its boring Spiv. The Condensation camps probably happened a long time ago, in the War with Heil Hitler or something… Move on… Get over it”.
Well, I would “get over it” if the Israelis, who continue to perpetuate the myth as a means to run riot throughout the world, would.
But they don’t. And not only is that detrimental to our future and worse still our childrens and childrens children’s futures, the myth is built on a lie.
A very costly lie at that.
The following is from the Times of Israel:
Germany has paid — primarily to Jewish survivors — some $89 billion in compensation overall for Nazi crimes since the agreement was signed in 1952.
In one change to the treaty that Germany agreed to earlier this year, the country will provide compensation payments to a new category of Nazi victims — some 80,000 Jews who fled ahead of the advancing German army and mobile killing squads and eventually resettled in the former Soviet Union. READ MORE
Eighty Nine Billion Dollars and rising! That is more than you could count in a fucking lifetime.
Imagine how much good that money could have done if ploughed into say, education, or healthcare?
Instead, it has been spunked on the back of a lie, for the benefit of a corrupt, depraved, perverted, country, hell bent on world domination.
Equally as bad is the fact that Our Prime Minister (and many others), the Cunt Cameron is helping to spread the lie, and donating our money to assure the continuance of the lie being forced down the throats of future generations.
And that is wrong, wrong and wrong again.
Why should we be forced to believe what is a blatant lie?
Why should we let Israel commit Genocide because of the lie?
Why should we sell ourselves into poverty and servitude because of the lie?
The lie is a cancer and needs to be cut out of history.
You can find another excellent article on the ‘six million’ by clicking HERE, which I would have reprinted was it not for the time that it would take me to restructure all of the photos of newspaper clips and add the many video links.
Source: The Liberation of the Camps: Facts vs. Lies, by Theodore J. O’Keefe
Presented with pictures, captions and extensive commentary by Lasha Darkmoon
Why is it illegal in 16 countries to doubt the gas chambers when not a single gas chamber has ever been found?
Nothing has been more effective in establishing the authenticity of the Holocaust story in the minds of Americans than the terrible scenes that US troops discovered when they entered German concentration camps at the close of World War II.
At Dachau, Buchenwald, Dora, Mauthausen, and other work and detention camps, horrified US infantrymen encountered heaps of dead and dying inmates, emaciated and diseased. Survivors told them hair-raising stories of torture and slaughter, and backed up their claims by showing the GIs crematory ovens, alleged execution gas chambers, supposed implements of torture, and even shrunken heads and lampshades, gloves, and handbags purportedly made from skin flayed from dead inmates.
US government authorities, mindful that many Americans who remembered the atrocity stories fed them during World War I still doubted the Allied propaganda directed against the Hitler regime, resolved to “document” what the GIs had found in the camps. Prominent newsmen and politicians were flown in to see the harrowing evidence, while the US Army Signal Corps filmed and photographed the scenes for posterity. Famous journalist Edward R. Murrow reported, in tones of horror, but no longer of disbelief, what he had been told and shown, and Dachau and Buchenwald were branded on the hearts and minds of the American populace as names of infamy unmatched in the sad and bloody history of this planet.
For Americans, what was “discovered” at the camps — the dead and the diseased, the terrible stories of the inmates, all the props of torture and terror — became the basis not simply of a transitory propaganda campaign but of the conviction that, yes, it was true: the Germans did exterminate six million Jews, most of them in lethal gas chambers.
What the GIs found was used, by way of films that were mandatory viewing for the vanquished populace of Germany, to “re-educate” the German people by destroying their national pride and their will to a united, independent national state, imposing in their place overwhelming feelings of collective guilt and political impotence. And when the testimony, and the verdict, of the Nuremberg Tribunal incorporated most, if not all, of the horror stories Americans were told about Dachau, Buchenwald, and other places captured by the US Army, the Holocaust could pass for one of the most documented, one of the most authenticated, one of the most proven historical episodes in the human record.
A Different Reality
But it is known today that, very soon after the liberation of the camps, American authorities were aware that the real story of the camps was quite different from the one in which they were coaching military public information officers, government spokesmen, politicians, journalists, and other mouthpieces.
When American and British forces overran western and central Germany in the spring of 1945, they were followed by troops charged with discovering and securing any evidence of German war crimes.
Among them was Dr. Charles Larson, one of America’s leading forensic pathologists, who was assigned to the US Army’s Judge Advocate General’s Department. As part of a US War Crimes Investigation Team, Dr. Larson performed autopsies at Dachau and some twenty other German camps, examining on some days more than 100 corpses. After his grim work at Dachau, he was questioned for three days by US Army prosecutors. [1]
Dr. Larson’s findings? In an 1980 newspaper interview he said: “What we’ve heard is that six million Jews were exterminated. Part of that is a hoax.” [2] And what part was the hoax? Dr. Larson, who told his biographer that to his knowledge he “was the only forensic pathologist on duty in the entire European Theater” of Allied military operations, [3] confirmed that “never was a case of poison gas uncovered.” [4]
Typhus, Not Poison Gas
If not by gassing, how did the unfortunate victims at Dachau, Buchenwald and Bergen-Belsen perish? Were they tortured to death or deliberately starved? The answers to these questions are known as well.
As Dr. Larson and other Allied medical men discovered, the chief cause of death at Dachau, Belsen and the other camps was disease, above all typhus, an old and terrible scourge of mankind that until recently flourished in places where populations were crowded together in circumstances where public health measures were unknown or had broken down. Such was the case in the overcrowded internment camps in Germany at war’s end, where, despite such measures as systematic delousing, quarantine of the sick and cremation of the dead, the virtual collapse of Germany’s food, transport, and public health systems led to catastrophe.
Perhaps the most authoritative statement of the facts as to typhus and mortality in the camps has been made by Dr. John E. Gordon, M.D., Ph.D., a professor of preventive medicine and epidemiology at the Harvard University School of Public Health, who was with US forces in Germany in 1945. Dr. Gordon reported in 1948 that “The outbreaks in concentration camps and prisons made up the great bulk of typhus infection encountered in Germany.” Dr. Gordon summarized the causes for the outbreaks as follows: [5]
Germany in the spring months of April and May [1945] was an astounding sight, a mixture of humanity traveling this way and that, homeless, often hungry and carrying typhus with them …
Germany was in chaos. The destruction of whole cities and the path left by advancing armies produced a disruption of living conditions contributing to the spread of the disease. Sanitation was low grade, public utilities were seriously disrupted, food supply and food distribution was poor, housing was inadequate and order and discipline were everywhere lacking. Still more important, a shifting of populations was occurring such as few countries and few times have experienced.
Dr. Gordon’s findings are corroborated by Dr. Russell Barton, today a psychiatrist of international repute, who entered Bergen-Belsen with British forces as a young medical student in 1945. Barton, who volunteered to care for the diseased survivors, testified under sworn oath in a Toronto courtroom in 1985 that “Thousands of prisoners who died at the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp during World War II weren’t deliberately starved to death but died from a rash of diseases.” [6]
Dr. Barton further testified that on entering the camp he had credited stories of deliberate starvation but decided such stories were untrue after inspecting the well equipped kitchens and the meticulously maintained ledgers, dating back to 1942, of food cooked and dispensed each day.
Despite noisily publicized claims and widespread popular notions to the contrary, no researcher has been able to document a German policy of extermination through starvation in the German camps.
No ‘Human Skin’ Lampshades
What of the ghoulish stories of concentration camp inmates skinned for their tattoos, flayed to make lampshades and handbags, or other artifacts? What of the innumerable “torture racks,” “meathooks,” whipping posts, gallows, and other tools of torment and death that are reported to have abounded at every German camp? These allegations, and even more grotesque ones proffered by Soviet prosecutors, found their way into the record at Nuremberg.
The lampshade and tattooed-skin charges were made against Ilse Koch, dubbed by journalists the “Bitch of Buchenwald,” who was reported to have furnished her house with objects manufactured from the tanned hides of luckless inmates.
Ilse Koch, known as “Buchenwälder Schlampe” or the Bitch of Buchenwald. We are told that “she reveled in torture and obscenity”, making lamp shades out of human skin showing the tattoos of Jewish camp inmates. The alleged human skin, upon forensic analysis after WW2, turned out to be goat skin. Ilse Koch hanged herself in despair at Aichach women’s prison on September 1, 1967 — yet another innocent victim of Jewish lies which are still being perpetrated to this day. Here she is listed as one of the “10 Most Evil Women in History”, along with Countess Elizabeth Bathory of Hungary and child-killer Myra Hindley.
But General Lucius Clay, military governor of the US zone of occupied Germany, who reviewed her case in 1948, told his superiors in Washington: “There is no convincing evidence that she [Ilse Koch] selected inmates for extermination in order to secure tattooed skins or that she possessed any articles made of human skin.” [7] In an interview General Clay gave years later, he stated about the material for the infamous lampshades: “Well, it turned out actually that it was goat flesh. But at the trial it was still human flesh. It was almost impossible for her to have gotten a fair trial.” [8]
Ilse Koch hanged herself in a German jail in 1967.
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† Lasha Darkmoon comments: It is now common knowledge that all the tall stories relating to Jewish skin being turned into lamp shades are grotesque fabrications. There is not a single Holocaust scholar in the world today who believes these fairy tales any longer. Even Jewish Wikipedia asks the question, “Did the Germans make lamp shades from prisoners’ skin?” and gives the answer: “No, they didn’t…it seems to be a popular urban legend.”
In spite of this, “Holocaust survivors” still continue to spread these false stories in schools across the country, perverting the minds of children with their vicious lies. One such is Czechoslovakian Jewess Frida Herskovits who told schoolchildren quite recently that she had learned of Nazi surgeries in which Jewish “organs were removed and human skin was used to make lamp shades and picture frames.”
Frida had not only seen Nazi guards throw sick Jews into a ditch and burn them alive after dousing them with kerosene—“The screams were unbelievable!”—she had also witnessed with her own eyes a pregnant mother have her baby ripped out of her womb by German Shepherd dogs!
If you want to see a photo of Frida, looking unusually jolly for a woman so traumatized, clickhere.
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It would be tedious to itemize and refute the thousands of bizarre claims as to Nazi atrocities. That there were instances of German cruelty, however, is clear from the testimony of Dr. Konrad Morgen, a legal investigator attached to the Reich Criminal Police, whose statements on the witness stand at Nuremberg have never been challenged by proponents of the Jewish Holocaust story. Dr. Morgen informed the court that he had been given full authority by Heinrich Himmler, commander of Hitler’s SS and the dread Gestapo, to enter any German concentration camp and investigate instances of cruelty and corruption on the part of camp personnel.
As he explained in sworn testimony at Nuremberg, Dr. Morgen investigated 800 such cases, resulting in more than 200 convictions. [9] Punishments included the death penalty for the worst offenders, including Hermann Florstedt, commandant of Lublin (Majdanek), and Karl Koch (Ilse’s husband), commandant of Buchenwald.
While German camp commandants in certain cases did inflict physical punishment, such acts had to be approved by authorities in Berlin, and it was required that a camp physician first certify the good health of the prisoner to be disciplined, and then be on hand at the actual beating. [10] After all, throughout most of the war the camps were important centers of industrial activity. The good health and morale of the prisoners was critical to the German war effort, as is evidenced in a January 1943 order issued by SS General Richard Glücks, chief of the office that supervised the concentration camps. It held the camp commanders “personally responsible for exhausting every possibility to preserve the physical strength of the detainees.” [11]
Camp Survivors: Merely Victims?
US Army investigators, working at Buchenwald and other camps, quickly ascertained what was common knowledge among veteran inmates: that the worst offenders, the cruelest denizens of the camps, were not the guards but the prisoners themselves. Common criminals of the same stripe as those who populate US prisons today committed many villainies, particularly when they held positions of authority, and fanatical Communists, highly organized to combat their many political enemies among the inmates, eliminated their foes with Stalinist ruthlessness.
Two US Army investigators at Buchenwald, Egon W. Fleck and Edward A. Tenenbaum, carefully investigated circumstances in the camp before its liberation. In a detailed report submitted to their superiors, they revealed, in the words of Alfred Toombs, their commander, who wrote a preface to the report, “how the prisoners themselves organized a deadly terror within the Nazi terror.” [12]
Fleck and Tenenbaum described the power exercised by criminals and Communists as follows:
The [Jewish] trusties, who in time became almost exclusively Communist Germans, had the power of life and death over all other inmates. They could sentence a man or a group to almost certain death … The Communist trusties were directly responsible for a large part of the brutalities at Buchenwald.
Colonel Donald B. Robinson, chief historian of the American military government in Germany, summarized the Fleck-Tenenbaum report in an article published in an American magazine shortly after the war. Colonel Robinson wrote succinctly of the American investigators’ findings:
“It appeared that the prisoners who agreed with the Communists ate; those who didn’t starved to death.” [13]
Additional corroboration of inmate brutality has been provided by Ellis E. Spackman, who, as Chief of Counter-Intelligence Arrests and Detentions for the US Seventh Army, was involved in the liberation of Dachau. Spackman, later a professor of history at San Bernardino Valley College in California, wrote in 1966 that at Dachau “the prisoners were the actual instruments that inflicted the barbarities on their fellow prisoners.” [14]
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† Lasha Darkmoon comments: Another Jewish Holocaust survivor, Yanina Cywinska, tells us she had witnessed evil Nazis “parade around briefcases and lamps made of human skin while washing their bodies with soap composed of Jewish bones.” She is obviously unaware that the human soap story has been proved every bit as false as the human lamp shade story.
In 1981, professor of Modern Jewish History and Holocaust expert Deborah Lipstadt wrote in a letter to the Los Angeles Times that “the fact is, the Nazis never used the bodies of Jews, or for that matter, anyone else, for the production of soap. The soap rumor was thoroughly investigated after the war and proved to be untrue.”
Shmuel Krakowski, Director of Archives of Israel’s Yad Vashem Holocaust Center, confirmed in a Chicago Tribune article titled, “A Holocaust Belief Cleared Up” that: “historians have concluded that soap was not made from human fat.”
This doesn’t stop Yanina Cywinska and other “Holocaust Survivors” like her from manufacturing human soap and lampshade stories ad infinitum.
Yanina had seen some horrible things happen in the concentration camps, including “nails and eyes pulled out of Jewish people.” This would probably account for her pessimism and negative attitude toward Yaveh. “If God is so almighty power,” she asks grimly, “why didn’t he stop the atrocities?” Good question. We’ll leave that to God.
If you want to see a photo of Yanina, looking particularly jolly for a woman so traumatized, click here.
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‘Gas Chambers’
In December 1944 US Army officers Colonel Paul Kirk and Lt. Colonel Edward J. Gully inspected the German concentration camp at Struthof-Natzweiler in Alsace. They submitted their findings to their superiors, who subsequently forwarded their report to the US War Crimes Division. While, significantly, the full text of their report has never been published, it has been revealed, by a historian supportive of Holocaust claims, that the two investigators were careful to characterize equipment exhibited to them by French informants as a “so-calledlethal gas chamber,” and to claim it was “allegedly used as a lethal gas chamber.” [15] (Emphasis added)
Both the careful phraseology of the Natzweiler report, and its effective suppression, stand in stark contrast to the credulity, the confusion, and the blaring publicity that accompanied official reports of alleged gas chambers at Dachau. At first, a US Army photo depicting a GI gazing at a steel door marked with a skull and crossbones and the German words for: “Caution! Gas! Mortal danger! Don’t open!,” was identified as showing the murder weapon. [16]
Later, however, it was evidently decided that the apparatus in question was merely a standard delousing chamber for clothing, and another alleged gas chamber, this one cunningly disguised as a shower room, was exhibited to American congressmen and journalists as the site where thousands breathed their last. While there exist numerous reports in the press as to the operation of this second “gas chamber,” no official report by trained Army investigators has yet surfaced to reconcile such problems as the function of the shower heads: Were they “dummies,” or did lethal cyanide gas stream through them? (Each theory has appreciable support in journalistic and historiographical literature.)
Revisionist scholar Robert Faurisson: “Show me a single gas chamber!”
As with Dachau, so with Buchenwald, Bergen-Belsen, and the other camps liberated by the Allies in western Germany. There was no end of propaganda about “gas chambers,” “gas ovens,” and the like, but so far not a single detailed description of the murder weapon and its function, not a single report of the kind that is mandatory for the successful prosecution of any assault or murder case in America at that time and today, has come to light.
Furthermore, a number of Holocaust authorities have now publicly decreed that there were no gassings, no extermination camps in Germany after all. (We are now told that “gassing” and “extermination” camps were located exclusively in what is now Poland, in areas captured by the Soviet Red Army and made off-limits to western investigators.)
Dr. Martin Broszat of the Munich-based Institute for Contemporary History, which is funded by the German government, stated categorically in a 1960 letter to the German weekly Die Zeit: “Neither in Dachau nor in Bergen-Belsen nor in Buchenwald were Jews or other prisoners gassed.” [17] Professional “Nazi hunter” Simon Wiesenthal stated in 1975 and again in 1993 that “there were no extermination camps on German soil.” [18]
Dachau “gas chamber” No. 2, which was once presented to a stunned and grieving world as a weapon that claimed hundreds of thousands of lives, is now described in the brochure issued to tourists at the modern Dachau “memorial site” in these words: “This gas chamber, camouflaged as a shower room, was not used.” [19]
The Propaganda Intensifies
More than 50 years after American troops entered Dachau, Buchenwald and other German camps, and trained American investigators established the facts as to what had gone on in them, the government in Washington, the entertainment media in Hollywood, and the print media in New York continue to churn out millions of words and images annually on the horrors of the camps and the infamy of the Holocaust. Despite the fact that, with the exception of the defeated Confederacy, no enemy of America has ever so suffered so complete and devastating defeat as did Germany in 1945, the mass media and the politicians and bureaucrats behave as if Hitler, his troops, and his concentration camps continue to exist in an eternal present, and our opinion makers continue to distort, through ignorance or malice, the facts about the camps.
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† Lasha Darkmoon comments: The story of Holocaust survivor Rivska Yosselevska is even more horrific and bizarre than those of Frida Herskovits and Yanina Cywinska related above. Despite being shot in the head and thrown into a pit with a mass of Jewish corpses piled on top of her, Rivska managed to claw her way to the top of the seething heap of limbs and somehow make her escape under the vigilant eyes of the Nazi guards. It wasn’t an easy job, given that the “dying victims” in the pit were “biting my legs, pulling me down.”
Other Jews also managed to crawl out of the pit and do a bunk for it, but the Nazis tracked them down and killed them all. Only Rivska survived to tell the tale. She lay three days by the side of the pit, utterly traumatized, “and saw blood spurting out of the ground.”
If you want to see a photo of Rivska, looking suitably traumatized, click here.
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Time for the Truth
It is time that the government and the professional historians reveal the facts about Dachau, Buchenwald and the other camps. It is time they let the American public know how the inmates died, and how they didn’t die. It is time that the claims of mass murder by gassing are clarified and investigated in the same manner as any other claims of murder. It is time that the free ride certain groups have enjoyed as the result of unchallenged Holocaust claims be terminated, just as it is time to end the scapegoating of other groups, including Germans, eastern Europeans, the Roman Catholic hierarchy, and the wartime leadership of America and Britain, either for their alleged role in the Holocaust or their supposed failure to stop it.
Above all, it is time that the citizens of this great Republic have the facts about the camps, facts they have a right to know, a right that is fundamental to the exercise of their authority and their will in the governance of their country. As citizens and as taxpayers, Americans of all ethnic backgrounds, of all faiths, have a basic right and an overriding interest in determining the facts of incidents that are deemed by those in positions of power to be significant in determining America’s foreign and educational policy, as well as its selection of past events to be memorialized in our civic life.
Today the alleged facts of the Holocaust are at issue all over the civilized world. The truth will be decided only by recourse to the facts, in the public forum: not by concealing the facts, denying the truth, stonewalling reality. The truth will out, and it is time the government of this country, and governments and international bodies throughout the world, make public the evidence of what actually transpired in the German concentration camps in the years 1933-1945, so that we may put paid to the lies, without fear or favor, and carry out the work of reconciliation and renewal that is and must be the granite foundation of mutual tolerance between peoples and of a peace based on justice.
Summary
The conclusions of the early US Army investigations as to the truth about the wartime German concentration camps have since been corroborated by all subsequent investigators and can be summarized:
The harrowing scenes of dead and dying inmates were not the result of a German policy of “extermination,” but rather the result of epidemics of typhus and other disease brought about largely by the effects of Allied aerial attacks.
Stories of Nazi supercriminals and sadists who turned Jews and others into handbags and lampshades for their private profit or amusement were sick lies or diseased fantasies; indeed, the German authorities punished corruption and cruelty on the part of camp commanders and guards.
On the other hand, portrayals of the newly liberated inmates as saints and martyrs of Hitlerism were quite often very far from the truth; indeed, most of the brutalities inflicted on camp detainees were the work of their fellow prisoners, in contravention of German policy and German orders.
The alleged homicidal showers and gas chambers were used either for bathing camp inmates or delousing their clothes; the claim that they were used to murder Jews or other human beings is a contemptible fabrication. Orthodox historians and professional “Nazi-hunters” have quietly dropped claims that inmates were gassed at Dachau, Buchenwald and other camps in Germany. They continue, however, to keep silent regarding the lies about Dachau and Buchenwald, as well as to evade an open discussion of the evidence for homicidal gassing at Auschwitz and the other camps captured by the Soviets.
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† Lasha Darkmoon comments: Did you know that that there is a Holocaust memorial center in Cuba where bars of soap allegedly made from Jewish fat are buried and held in high honor by endless streams of gullible tourists? The plaque reads: “Honoring their memory. In this place are buried pieces of soap made from Jewish human fat, part of 6 million victims of Nazi barbarism of the 2oth century. Peace to their remains.”
To read the plaque in Spanish, click here.
It’s the same old story in superstitious Rumania. In the town of Targu Mures, pilgrims pray over bars of soap allegedly made of “pure Jewish fat.” Quite a brisk trade is apparently done in these soap bars, each inscribed with the initials ‘RJF’—Reine Jüdisch Fett (pure Jewish fat). Needless to say, the soap is not meant to be used but to be buried in the cemetery at Targu Mures where people come to pray over the holy soap. Forensic analysis of the soap is not permitted; it is too sacred. (See here)
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Robert Faurisson formulated this famous “60-word sentence” in 1980. It constitutes the position of most Holocaust Revisionist scholars today, in open defiance of the mainstream narrative: “The alleged Hitlerite gas chambers and the alleged genocide of the Jews constitute one and the same historical lie, which made possible a gigantic financial-political fraud, the principal beneficiaries of which are the State of Israel and international Zionism, and whose principal victims are the German people—but not their leaders—and the entire Palestinian people.”
October 7, 2013 @ 2:55 am
The World Almanac for 1947, in quoting figures supplies by the American Jewish Committee states that the world Jewish population in 1939 was 15,688,259. The New York Times of February 22, 1948, stated that the world Jewish population ranged from 15,600,000 to 18,700,000, excluding some 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine. How could the Jewish population have increased so rapidly after losing six million during World War II? Walter Sanning, the author of Dissolution of European Jewry, says that no less than 2,200,000 Jews had emigrated out of Europe leaving 2,847,000 Jews residing there at the height of the German occupation in June 1941. After the war, 3,375,000 Jews, according to the Red Cross, applied for holocaust reparations. This figure included many of the emigrants. Thus, the actual number of those who died at the camps from all causes ranges between 150,000 and 300,000.
(It should also be noted that Elizabeth Dole, president of the American Red Cross, and wife of former Sen. Bob Dole, revealed that the official death records from Auschwitz had been uncovered in the Soviet Archives. It listed 70,000 deaths from all causes.)
The Germans are noted for being meticulous record keepers. There was no attempt made to destroy wartime records, 1,100 tons of which were seized in the U.S. Zone of occupation alone. British Historian, Colin Cross, writes in his biography of Hitler, on page 313: “There does not exist then, anything like a written order signed by Hitler for the extermination of the Jews in Europe.”
October 7, 2013 @ 11:52 am
http://www.fpp.co.uk/Austria/arrest_2005/index.html
There’s some interesting stuff on David Irving’s web site about the validity of the conventional reports of the holocaust. We need to keep a very open mind on this issue and not necessarily believe the stuff that we’ve been peddled. The Germans and Austrians post-War were brainwashed totally, to the point where, I think, the Austrians were incapable of treating Irving in a manner commensurate with the “offence” that he was supposed to have committed.
October 7, 2013 @ 9:53 pm
My reply is that you are a racist scoundrel. Luckily we, Jews, are quite strong now, and can fight anyone trying to annihilate us. I cannot be bothered to even analyse your rubbish.Very few people care about your nonsense anyway. I did , because my father came through ghetto and saw all horror by his own eyes.
Most of Jews can,t be bothered by your rubbish. You and your cohorts are not good enough to seriously bother us.
October 7, 2013 @ 11:11 pm
You say:
“I cannot be bothered to even analyse your rubbish.”
I say:
Translation: “I can’t defend my argument against the truth.”
I also say:
If, and it’s a big if, there is a god, then do you think God belongs only to you? He doesn’t. God is an immortal spirit who belongs to everybody, to the whole world. You think you’re special? God is not an Israelite.
October 8, 2013 @ 5:00 am
There’s far too much garbage in this country. I suggest you piss off down to Israel or back east where you rightly belong. That would take one piece of it off our hands.
October 8, 2013 @ 5:32 am
Here’s a little something, written by a jew. One that, contrary to you, isn’t a complete idiot. http://theflippintruth.wordpress.com/2013/02/05/why-i-call-myself-a-holocaust-denier-by-paul-eisen/
October 7, 2013 @ 10:08 pm
I suppose the next thing you’ll be telling us that Josef Mengele didn’t carry out medical experiments on human beings, Herr Spivey? Actually, Ilse Koch wasn’t the supposed innocent that you portray her as here but was actually a member of the NSDAP since 1932 before Hitler came to power. The charges brought against her and her husband also included charges of embezzlement. She was actually released from prison after a while but it wasn’t Jewish or Polish victims of her crimes that campaigned for her to be re-arrested; it was actually the (largely non-Jewish) German and Austrian public outcry from those amongst them whom she had also brutalised and attempted to dehumanise. Thus, she killed herself in prison years later in 1967 – her numerous victims never got that luxury of choice and most of them were just ordinary folk who wanted to live. I know you won’t post this because the truth runs contrary to the political point that you’re trying to get across. Yet you’ll go on to proclaim over the internet how your ideas are being suppressed and how this runs contrary to freedom of speech. That’s actually called hypocrisy (hypo-chris-y?) similar to the phenomenon encountered in those slime ball mainstream politicians whom you’re perpetually telling us you despise so much. The holocaust did happen – between 1933 to 1945 at least 11 million people died in Nazi death camps and many of them weren’t Jewish either – but around 6 million of this number were and Hitler did set out to systematically exterminate the Jews. That is why the holocaust (or shoah) has a crucial significance for Jewish people. No serious historian is saying that its victims were solely Jews but the fact is that there was a systematic rounding up, murder and eradication of most Jewish communities throughout Nazi occupied Europe between 1938 to 1945 and this was part of a clear obsessive aim: i.e. a ‘Final Solution’ to mercilessly wipe a whole group of people off the face of the earth forever. That is why there is so much emphasis on the Jewish victims of Hitler’s Nazis. The Nazis were (and still are) thoroughly sick and evil people. I’ve spoken to older (non-Jewish) people in Poland who can remember the Nazi occupation as kids and they’ve told me how their attitude towards Poles was one of complete contempt as Nazi racial theory literally regarded them as a lower form of life. The Nazis weren’t as obsessed with whipping them out as they were with regard to Jews, LGBT, the mentally disabled and Roma, but they were subject to random violence and execution every day. You really need to stop listening to liars like David Irving and the rest of the holocaust revisionists who try to make out the Nazis weren’t really that bad. For starters, Irving is also a right-wing racist which might give you a clue that he comes from a totally biased viewpoint and changes facts into fiction in order to sell his obnoxious theories.
October 7, 2013 @ 11:08 pm
Hi Just another girl,
Your reverse psychology worked and got you published even though you are talking bollocks.
For a start the Jewish population increased between 1933 and 1948.
Moreover, If at the time that the sign was erected at Auschwitz there were 6 million Jews dead, of which out of the 4 Million who died in the camp were mainly Jews and that number has now been officially reduced by two and a half million and may need reducing again down to a million deaths in total, you can straight away reduce the 6 million to at least 4 million on official figures alone.
Then there is the tricky matter of how they were murdered since the existence of the so call gas chambers has been disproved beyond reasonable doubt. Pouring Zyclon B on its own into a room will not kill anyone. And, since the Nazi’s were so fond of photographing all their handy work, why is there not a single photo of dead bodies in the shower rooms?
Don’t forget the problem of burning these body’s which has proved impossible given the time frame, technology, limited crematoria against the sheer number of supposed dead… All facts you seem to ignore.
Poles treated with contempt? A bit like we treat the Muslims in this country now.
You forget about the 6 million magical number figuring in all manner of Jewish catastrophes long before the Holocaust… Please clarify how 6 million is always the figure.
Lets not forget the Holocausts which dwarfed the Nazi holocaust yet are not even known about by most.
And if there was a grain of truth I the old bollocks, then the Jews would be more compassionate instead of policing the biggest concentration camp in the world commonly referred to as the Gazza strip.
Over to you.
Chris x
PS, Josef Mengle’s work is still being carried out today. Check out MK ultra.
October 9, 2013 @ 11:31 am
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/denial1.html
October 7, 2013 @ 10:17 pm
On my barbeque I deliberately tried to burn to ash a chicken. Firstly the coals were very hot initially the bird cooked then burned. Didn’t set fire then the coke died out after an hour the bird was black and burned not to ash though still meaty inside. So I refueled the barbeque with loads of lighter blocks it burned very hot for a good hour till it went out the Chi Chen was still not burned to ash.
So if I couldn’t burn s chicken carcass to ash with coke fuel etc how did the Germans burn thousands of corpses to ash in pits.?
October 7, 2013 @ 11:33 pm
@Eugene:
What do you think of the people in this video Eugene?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GxiwBpbGmoU
I’m very interested to hear your thoughts. These guys are fine men and Jewish too. What do ya say?
October 8, 2013 @ 3:49 am
Does this mean that my “No Smoking in the Gas Chamber” poster is a fake? Fuckin’ Ebay.
October 8, 2013 @ 5:24 am
Eugene, if you are stupid enough to believe all that the history books present, then good luck to you.
You and just another gullible girl both struggle with basic maths and she has quoted things that have nothing to do with the article, Embezzlement and human lampshades are hardly the same crime! FFS learn to read!
October 8, 2013 @ 5:27 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dxsVSzL4HE
Saw this some years ago; worth a look, but it’s very long.
October 8, 2013 @ 10:43 pm
“Poles treated with contempt? A bit like we treat the Muslims in this country now.”
I agree there is a lot of prejudice against Muslims in Britain, but it’s not got to the stage where they’re being rounded up randomly on the street and shot in the town square every time there’s an al Qaeda incident reported on the news, is it? Has it got to the stage where the British army has dynamited 80 per cent of Bradford like the Wehrmacht did to Warsaw in 1944? Er…No. Yet this was exactly what was happening to the Poles and many other populations under Nazi occupation during WW2 before we even get to the subject of the Nazis main aim which was to exterminate Jewish people. Have you ever heard of a small Czech village called Lidice, for instance? Or do you think that the extermination of its entire male population was a myth created by the allies too? As for bringing in the Gaza strip: actually most Jewish people aren’t Israeli and the Jews of the miniscule country of Israel only represent a minority of Jewish people worldwide. Jewish people have one of the highest rates of ‘marrying out’ and are notorious for not getting on with each other – the idea that they’re a closely knit group of people who promote each other and look after each others interests is absolutely laughable. The fact is that around six million Jewish people disappeared between the years 1933 to 1945 and never appeared again. Now – even without any evidence whatsoever – you don’t have to be Sherlock Holmes to work out what happened to them. However, what about all those eyewitness accounts by allied soldiers of the horror they came upon when they liberated camps such as Belsen? At the end of the day, the Holocaust did happen and so did the Tsarist Pogroms, and so did the torture, murder and massacres of both Muslims and Jews during the Spanish Inquisition and Crusades. The Holocaust was the culmination of 2,000 years of persecution of Jewish people and much of this happened long before the state of Israel was ever conceived. Jews tried their best to be good, authentic citizens and subjects of the countries they lived in: they fought and died for their countries for hundreds of years yet still got branded as disloyal scapegoated by corrupt, evil and feckless monarchs and dictators. Much of what you write on this site has a medievalist tone about it – I bet some of the people who frequent here similarly believe the blood libel myth about Jews sacrificing children. Do you similarly believe that the earth is flat?
October 9, 2013 @ 5:29 am
Far to many points for me to get bogged down addressing them I’m afraid.
Not to mention the fact that I really can’t be arsed.
You are like so many more in this world, who having read only one side of a story decide that is all they need to read to be right.
Trust me when I tell you that one way or the other, you will have to step out of your protective bubble sooner or later.
However, I’m sure there will be plenty of people willing to take your silly witterings to pieces for me.
And by the way. It is silly little girls and boys like yourself who think the world is flat. I know its not because I weigh up the evidence having looked at things from all perspectives.
Over to you Dogman, Mr TG, Arm, Fuck, Pissed, Wank… Have we got a Wank yet? … Anyway, I’m sure someone will actually be arsed to educate you, with some info that you obviously wont be able to soak up… Don’t bite her too hard gentlemen.
And fuck taking the register with you lot. I’d sound like a right foul mouthed cunt.
Chris x
PS. I know that there are ladies on here who are quite able to take bi-sexual girls ramblings to pieces… But you are all far too vicious to let loose on the silly billy and I dont want to be seen as the bad guy responsible for doing so. xx
October 12, 2013 @ 8:12 am
why are your research efforts always right chris?????????shit your a typical bloody male you just no everything don’t cha,the holocaust is real what a fucking insult to the millions of innocent people who lost there lives and to the survivors who lived to tell there stories I’LL give you the woolwich pantomine hoax and boston bombing hoax and even 9/11 but to try and deny the atrocities that happend to the jews beggars belief maybe you need to sit down and watch a few episodes of the x factor and chill the fuck out I thought your reply to justanother girl was ignorant and rude and to dismiss her her well written efforts with your pompus attitude tells me you just always have to be right researched or not get your head out of your own arse and smell the roses for a change!
October 12, 2013 @ 10:37 am
You are entitled to your opinion Hayley… But I’m right.
October 12, 2013 @ 3:42 pm
@hayley and justanotherblinkeredfool
Read this and when you’re finished do some research and buy a calculator :
black hole
OCT 08, 2013 @ 05:32:00
Here’s a little something, written by a jew. One that, contrary to you, isn’t a complete idiot. http://theflippintruth.wordpress.com/2013/02/05/why-i-call-myself-a-holocaust-denier-by-paul-eisen/
October 12, 2013 @ 3:54 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKCQY_rrBns
The incredible pedal driven brain bashing machine.
For more true stories from ‘survivors’
http://www.cwporter.com/partone.htm
😀
October 12, 2013 @ 4:00 pm
Justanothergirl
OCT 08, 2013 @ 22:43:30 , “The Holocaust was the culmination of 2,000 years of persecution of Jewish people” , ooh yeah says who ? , would you like to put all 2,000 years of persecution into chronological order , also where and when this persecution started and who was the author ( i say author as i imagine you have read it somewhere or have been watching to much BBC propaganda ) , I only ask as the Jewish people i know don’t believe it themselves , then there is the false number of 6 million who apparently died , then changed to 3 million and getting smaller by the week , where as in the Russian archive the Jews killed 18 million gentiles , yet i don’t hear you or anyone else defending or complaining about christians being murdered by zionist death squads . Also if you research the so called holocaust you will find references to it here http://www.iamthewitness.com/Crucifixion-of-Jews.html which happens to be from 1919 , err lol ,
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October 12, 2013 @ 6:40 pm
Thanx Hayley.
Chris likes to claim that he believes in freedom of speech on his website but he also didn’t publish the post that I submitted as a reply to him. I think it’s rather hypocritical that you claim to champion free speech until you are presented with an idea and/or experience which threatens to contradict you and then you simply censor it by not publishing it, Chris. If you know that your opinions are so weak that certain criticisms of them you have to delete then you must know that what you are saying is not genuine and basically propaganda in the service of an ulterior, ideological motive.
I totally agree with Hayley’s viewpoint that to say that the holocaust and all these other atrocities are hoaxes both flies in the face of all the evidence we have and is extremely insulting to the victims and must be profoundly upsetting for their surviving relatives – some of whom could easily stumble across this stuff on the internet.
To criticize the Israeli government is one thing, Chris (and many Jewish people both inside and outside Israel are often amongst its strongest critics), but to try to hide behind anti-Zionism in order to justify anti-Semitism as so many far-right Neo-Nazi groups tend to do nowadays is pretty pathetic.
Unfortunately, there is still much anti-Semitism around and it’s often pure age-old bigotry and has nothing to do with whether Israel exists or not. You’re fond of commenting on Mail stories in order to show Jewish people in a bad light, but I noticed you haven’t commented on one recent story where an ordinary, innocent Jewish couple had their wedding day ruined by a total bigot who made awful remarks which were both anti-Semitic and sexist:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2451754/Camermans-anti-Semitic-rant-caught-Jewish-wedding-video.html
Where Jewish people are the victims of abuse you don’t seem interested. Tell me, do you think this was yet another hoax too!
October 13, 2013 @ 7:40 am
The reason I didn’t publish the last reply is because you are just going over the same old ground. You are not contributing anything, you are just stopping me and others getting on… A typical troll tactic.
They dont work on here I’m afraid.
Neither do you understand the concept of free speech.
Now, to be Frank, I couldnt give two fucks if you think I am a Neo Nazi, homophobic, racist scumbag.
However, if you don’t see your comments appearing, you now know why.
It aint fucking rocket science… Which obviously is just as well.
Chris… Have a kiss x
October 12, 2013 @ 8:06 pm
Im going to give a Wiki description of Genocide, reading it made me feel ill.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocides_in_history
I thought I was quite worldly wise, but didnt realise how low humanity has stooped. I realise its only Wiki and figures will be inaccurate, but even so – so much cruelty,so many deaths. Hardly any of this is taught in schools as part of the history curriculum. Except the genocide of the Jews. Why is that?
Children should know of all the atrocities that happened because of greed and power.
Then perhaps another generation will refuse to be part of it and finally say NO MORE!
Children need to know its not just the jews who have been targeted, They were, but so were many other races,disabled, gypsies + anyonewhodoesntconform.
Sounds familiar – look at the UK today.
So glad we homeschool now.
The Jews seem to have a monopoly on sympathy. And a lot of our media time.
The British armed forces are guilty of horrific murders, the Americans guilty for much much more (Iraq) Why dont children learn about those atrocities?
I dont hate Jews, I dont hate any race. I despair over the way those who rule US push an agenda to encourage hate and promote their paid for propaganda in our msm.
Sorry for rambling
October 12, 2013 @ 8:40 pm
Read Laurence Gardners The Origin of God and you will find out how this lie was perpetrated:
“The Holocaust was the culmination of 2,000 years of persecution of Jewish people” ,
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml
http://www.henrymakow.com/translated_from_the_hungarian.html
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2013/06/fake-holocaust-stories.html
http://therebel.org/vdeos/holocaust/carlos-w-porter-the-holocaust-made-in-russia/
http://therebel.org/vdeos/holocaust/ernst-zuendel-in-conversation-with-dr-fredrick-toeben-portrait-of-a-philosopher-1997/
http://therebel.org/vdeos/holocaust/holohoax-survivors-who-tell-the-truth/
http://therebel.org/vdeos/holocaust/auschwitz-the-surprising-hidden-truth/
http://therebel.org/vdeos/holocaust/one-third-of-the-holocaust-2006/
http://therebel.org/vdeos/holocaust/david-cole-the-truth-behind-the-gates-of-auschwitz/
Apologies, but can’t go into more detail because I’ve had pc problems all day and not enough time tonight. This was all I could find in 10 minutes!
No stamping your feet girls!
October 13, 2013 @ 7:49 am
Pc problems?
Thats what you get for being associated with me.
Have a kiss x
October 13, 2013 @ 9:58 pm
Justanothergirl why don’t you answer question’s put to you ? , yet you expect Chris to reply to yours , as for your other id Hayley lol as a pretense as back up try again lol , ip’s can be traced just saying ,
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October 14, 2013 @ 12:20 am
“as for your other id Hayley lol as a pretense as back up try again lol , ip’s can be traced just saying”
Fuckin nice one aun. No-one gets passed The Wombles Repuclican Army. 😉
October 13, 2013 @ 3:20 pm
” Children need to know its not just the jews who have been targeted, They were, but so were many other races,disabled, gypsies + anyonewhodoesntconform.
Sounds familiar – look at the UK today.”
As Mrs Worried is telling you you need to realize that also gay people war persecuted by the Nazi and everyone else as well so why the hate on us chris?
October 13, 2013 @ 10:18 pm
I am quite aware of who was persecuted in the war Ulrike.
Im not quite sure who you are accusing me of hating but it certainly isnt either Jews or Gays.
Chris x
October 13, 2013 @ 9:05 pm
Mate, I don’t doubt that for a moment, as it also happens if I use the OH’s laptop. Interest in certain topics seems unwelcome, now why would that be? Rhetorical question that even a troll knows the answer to, although they pretend not to. If only the young lady would ask why the numerous other holocausts hardly ever get a mention, or the treatment of Palestinians, who are genuine semitics, but no, yet again it is about a jewish couple, abuse which although wrong, was way down the Richter scale of crimes being perpetrated. mrs Worried that is a very good post, but will of course be ignored by the trolls.
October 14, 2013 @ 12:53 am
Right then everyone, I’m going to rant now. We can talk forever about who killed who, how many of one race or the other were killed, which side was good, which was bad. The truth of the matter is that 99.99999% of everyone who has been killed during war, have been working class people. If you don’t like that term use ordinary people instead, i.e. YOU and people just like YOU.
No Statesmen, no Kings, no MPs, not even any Generals have been killed in battle for 150 yrs. We get killed, not them.
Everything you have been told is a lie. There is nothing special about ‘royalty’, politicians, bishops, rabbis, imams, your line manager or any other cunt who thinks he’s better than you, their shit stinks too.
From the holohoax to 9/11 and every other false flag manipulation of our minds, has been done to divide the masses, or us if you prefer. There is no such thing as black or white, Jew, Muslim or Christian, working class or middle class. There is only rich or poor. If you are a poor black man, rich black men will look down upon you. A rich Jew will laugh at a homeless Jew, I could go on…but I trust most of you can fill in the blanks yourselves. The point is that we, you and me, our families and our unborn children are being persecuted by those in power. We need to…….
GET ANGRY AND FIGHT BACK
October 14, 2013 @ 3:05 am
Agreed… Just like to add that we are all Human beings and we need to unite regardless of skin colour, religion, and/or sexual orientation.
There are many who say “ah, but the Asians stick to their own and do not want to mix” or “gays want everyone else to be gay hence gay pride”.
To that I would say there are problems by certain elements on all sides.
I find the Asians that I know to be very friendly and easy going. It could be said that yes some Asians are stand offish but then again so are some Brits (for want of a better word), there needs to be more trust and give & take on both sides.
Religion needs to be a personal thing and not forced on anyone.
I know a lot of people who are gay, extremely nice, very easy going, witty and also condemn ‘gay pride’ etc. Once again, who anyone chooses to sleep with is their business as long as they are over the age of consent and willing of course.
I have no time for gay pride marches etc. Whatever your sexual preference is, isn’t anything to brag about or anyone elses business but your own.
If we do not learn how to all get along and very quickly too, we are all fucked… Simple as that.
October 14, 2013 @ 1:17 am
Ha ha ha remember me – the “banned”?
Pc problems I wonder how that happened, guyz?:)
October 14, 2013 @ 3:11 am
You must have forgotten about me then shit for brains… I have no PC issues.
You are now re-banned.
October 15, 2013 @ 1:08 am
Turd burglar! Be off with you zombie!!!
October 21, 2013 @ 7:05 pm
stfu dogman this is an idf operation you stoopid American Lutheran lilberal twat
October 14, 2013 @ 3:16 am
Cerberus
OCT 14, 2013 @ 01:17:53
Ha ha ha remember me – the “banned”?
Pc problems I wonder how that happened, guyz?:)
Hey shit for brains you couldn’t program my micro wave as for the washing machine no fucking chance , piss off dumbass shill , lmfao @re-banned , to fucking funny , who writes this stuff , oops i did pmsl .
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October 14, 2013 @ 3:22 pm
The six million Jews exterminated by the Nazis depended in large part (66%) on Auschwitz, where four million of them were infamously done to death. Thanks to Ernst Zundel and the International Red Cross, Mikhail Gorbachev in 1989 released to the Red Cross the captured death records from Auschwitz. The forty-six volumes cover the period of 1941 to ’43 and record about 69,000 deaths, mainly from disease or natural causes. The IRC had investigated all the German and Polish camps during and after the war and estimated about 200,000 deaths, some of them Jewish. When the US Army liberated Dachau, for example, of the 32,000 inmates, about 1,200 were Jews. Jewish representation was so tiny during WWII as to be insignificant, except in their minds. In their minds, the 60 million actual deaths of real people were insignificant, not worthy of consideration. Read:http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p265_Weber.html
October 14, 2013 @ 4:19 pm
You never fail to impress me Dogman. I’m mighty glad you aren’t working for the opposition.
Course, there will be an influx of people writing in declaring the IRC to be anti Semites, with their own agenda, or the records are forged or they are a tin pot organisation or yada, yada yada bollocks.
Well done, and keep up the sterling work my friend.
Have a kiss, x
Chris
October 22, 2013 @ 12:42 am
The Liberation of the Death Camps
November 3, 2013 @ 11:03 am
The cunt who wrote this article should be put in the fuckin gas chamber and gassed slowly. He doesn’t know what the fuck he`s on about. Pity they didn’t` put his parents in the gas chamber then the world wouldn`t have to read the shit he comes out with. I guarantee he loves Muslims. Is this man so fuckin stupid not to have seen all the evidence of the holocaust or one of them Knobs who`s thick as fuck. the world would be better of if prix like him was put down.
November 3, 2013 @ 11:22 am
So you think gassing people is ok, as long as you can choose who it is! You really think our problems are because of Muslims.
Have you not read ANY of the articles on the internet that cast doubt on the holocaust in Germany?
The US House of Representatives Armed Services Committee has proposed a nearly half a billion dollar increase in military aid to Israel …yet 45 million people in the US live on food stamps! Business as usual…………
Dogman
November 7, 2013 @ 1:05 am
needlz I don`t think gassing people is ok I was just making a point. How would you feel if all your family had been gassed to fuck then some one started saying it never happened. All this false evidence has been put out by Muslim backed groups There`s that much evidence to support the gassing`s that to deny it you must be evil or fuckin nuts or both. By the way it was his fuckin holiness the Pope and his decuples that’s mainly responsible for Hitler’s rise to power and no I`m not a Jew.
November 7, 2013 @ 1:51 am
andy, I used to be pro-Israel, but after working with Palestinians and other Muslims, I slowly opened my eyes to the fact that there are two sides to every story. Seems obvious I know, but we have been conditioned to accept history as written by the winners. Nobody should suffer the sort of abuse inflicted in war, but they do and it is all wrong. The people that cause the wars do not fight in them.
“History is a myth men have agreed upon” – Napoleon
“Of course people don’t want war. Why should a poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best thing he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece?” – Hermann Goering
The Jesuits were supposedly behind the rise of Adolf Hitler, but the problem with the holocaust is the numbers involved and the fact that we are not allowed to question it.
I posted some info about the abuse of Sephardic jews at the hands of Zionists and nobody wants to talk about that.
There are good and evil in all nationalities/creeds/religions/sexes and therefore I would prefer people not to make sweeping statements that include innocents. My wife’s grandma had to hide in a drainage ditch, from Japanese soldiers that she witnessed catching babies on their bayonets. She helped raise my wife and never hated all the Japanese for the evil she saw.