Dec 16 2013
Going for Gold
The Daily Chimpanzee
Have China landed on the moon or is it just the work of Stanleyo Kubrikyo-Ping?
Personally, I don’t think that they have… But that is just my opinion of course, not a statement of fact, before any bod pounces.
You see, to my way of thinking the Chinese have stuck to closely to Stanley Kubricks 1969 script.
I am of course assuming that you know that the film director Stan the Man filmed the moon landings?
If you don’t, then maybe you best click HERE first.
For those of you who do know that the moon landings never took place, you will notice that the only thing that has really changed from 69 is instead of the vehicle carried on the Poo Shit Pong – or whatever the fucking things called – having inflatable tyres, the Chinese have used metal ones.
Oh and Gold tinfoil too instead of the Americans bog standard Silver – albeit the US now appear to have updated their moon landing photos to show Gold tinfoil too.
Apart from that everything is the same, from the crappy looking ‘Blue Peter’ type landing module knock up, right down to the moon surface.
Or is it just coincidence that the moon surface looks exactly like Kubrick’s interpretation?
The only other way that anyone could know what the moon surface was like is via satellite photos and if the Americans can get such detailed photos from satellite, why would the Chinese bother sending Poo Shit Pong and its mobile cargo, Little Shit Poo up there?
Never the less, the Chinese moon landing, whether it be fake or not, isn’t the point of this article.
You can however – should you wish – read the Chimps version of the Chinese moon landings by clicking HERE.
You see, I couldn’t give a flying fuck if the Chinese had landed on Mars.
I do however give a fuck when the Cunt Cameron is handing our money over to the tune of £27.4 Million last year alone to indirectly help towards the costs of the Super Powers space odyssey’s:
Britain is still giving China millions of pounds in aid even though the Communist superpower is so wealthy it has just sent a rocket to the moon.
Official figures seen by the Daily Mail reveal that Britain gave Beijing £27.4million last year – making a mockery of ministerial assurances that the programme was to stop.
The revelation comes days after China flaunted its might by successfully landing a probe on the lunar surface. And only two weeks ago David Cameron went to Beijing to seek Chinese investment to improve Britain’s ailing infrastructure.
And when the Cunt says “Chinese investment” what he means is selling the Communists our Cuntry’s share in EuroStar… Something that isn’t his to sell.
Not that that fact ever stopped previous governments selling off what wasn’t theirs.
And why are we giving the Chinese these vast sums of money when it could be given to help those starving in this Cuntry?
Government officials said UK money went on programmes to combat climate change and help economic growth.
You really couldn’t make this shit up, don’t cha know!
Fucking Climate Change! … Formerly known as Global Warming and now known as World Old Fanny?
I tell you what?
It’s no wonder that I am a proper pissed off Bunny today… Just sayin’.
It’s just sent a rocket to the moon and is an economic superpower. So, Mr Cameron… Why ARE we giving China £27m in aid?
- Revelation comes days after China successfully landed probe on the moon
- Two weeks ago David Cameron went to Beijing seeking Chinese investment
- Critics called on International Development Secretary Justine Greening to explain why UK aid is going to China and 14 other nations judged ineligible
- The aid to China is enough to pay for 1,000 nurses
By JASON GROVES
PUBLISHED: 23:25, 15 December 2013 | UPDATED: 23:25, 15 December 2013
Britain is still giving China millions of pounds in aid even though the Communist superpower is so wealthy it has just sent a rocket to the moon.
Official figures seen by the Daily Mail reveal that Britain gave Beijing £27.4million last year – making a mockery of ministerial assurances that the programme was to stop.
The revelation comes days after China flaunted its might by successfully landing a probe on the lunar surface. And only two weeks ago David Cameron went to Beijing to seek Chinese investment to improve Britain’s ailing infrastructure.
Britain is still giving China £27m in aid despite David Cameron (pictured) visiting Beijing two weeks ago to seek investment from the Communist superpower
The government has been critised for providing aid to China, which is so wealthy it has sent a rocket to the moon
Government officials said UK money went on programmes to combat climate change and help economic growth.
But Tory MP Peter Bone called on International Development Secretary Justine Greening to explain why UK aid was still going to China and 14 other nations that had been judged ineligible.
More…
‘The public will be rightly horrified that we are still wasting money on aid to China,’ he said.
‘It is extraordinary that we are doing this while they send a mission to the moon. If these aid programmes are still continuing then I think Justine Greening needs to come to Parliament and explain what the justification is, because I can’t think of one.’
China has poured billions into its space programme. The landing of its Jade Rabbit lunar rover on Saturday was watched on state TV by 1.4billion Chinese.
Ministers have issued repeated assurances that aid to China has stopped, saying in 2010 that it was ‘not justifiable’ to send millions to an economic superpower.
Critics have called on International Development Secretary Justine Greening to explain why UK aid was still going to China and 14 other nations that had been judged ineligible
But figures slipped out by the Department for International Development (Dfid) reveal that China – the world’s second biggest economy with almost £2trillion in reserves – received £27.4 million last year, enough to pay for almost 1,000 UK nurses.
It was one of 16 countries that supposedly had its aid programme axed following a review by Andrew Mitchell, then International Development Secretary, in 2011.
But Dfid figures reveal that 15 of the countries were still receiving a total of £131.9million British aid last year. Vietnam was given £51.5million, Cambodia £14.5million, Indonesia £11.3million and Kosovo £10.2million.
Smaller sums went to Angola, Bosnia, Burundi, Cameroon, Gambia, Iraq, Lesotho, Moldova, Niger and Serbia. Only Russia’s small aid programme was ended.
Ministers have faced persistent criticism for sending aid to countries wealthy enough to develop their own space projects.
India, which received £290million in 2012, last month launched a rocket to survey the surface of Mars. Nigeria was handed £208million despite being able to afford a programme to launch satellites.
China has poured billions into its space programme including the landing of its Jade Rabbit lunar rover on Saturday
Pauline Latham, a Tory member of the Commons international development committee, said she was ‘very surprised’ at the revelation, adding: ‘When China is sending missions to the moon it is quite clear they no longer need our help.’
Matthew Sinclair, chief executive of the TaxPayers Alliance, said: ‘Taxpayers expect UK aid to be helping people in the world’s poorest nations.’
A Government spokesman said it was right to continue to work with non-governmental partners on global issues such as economic growth and climate change.
Last year’s aid package to China included almost £5million from the Commonwealth Development Corporation (CDC), which is owned by Dfid, and £22.5million from the Foreign Office.
A CDC spokesman said it had been ‘legally and contractually bound’ to hand over the money as part of an ongoing investment deal.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2524313/Why-ARE-giving-China-27m-aid.html#ixzz2neO5Xxef
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December 16, 2013 @ 3:34 pm
Justine Greening(AKA molely russels wort) is a disgusting piece of detritus that looks like a fucking witch. Was funny how they made a simulation of the landing, why not just show us the landing,because it may not have happened.
Cunt Cameron still gives india aid even though they also have a domestic space program, simply beggars belief!
Andy
December 16, 2013 @ 11:32 pm
Poor girl has got a face like a fish supper….
December 16, 2013 @ 3:56 pm
Haha.. spot on Chris. I heard recently that NASA have now ‘mislaid’ all the original Apollo Moon ‘landing’ film footage.
All seven roomfuls of it if you can believe that…
A Grand deception indeed, and one that even fooled the most wholesome, squeaky-clean American family of all.. The Osmonds.
Or were they involved too?
http://outlawjimmy.wordpress.com/2013/08/07/moon-music/
December 16, 2013 @ 4:20 pm
Not just the landing footage, but all the radio telemetry from all the hundreds of sensors on the rocket, LIM, lander, and astronauts themselves; plus all the blueprints of all the rockets and modules of the Apollo program; plus all the recordings of radio conversations. A congressional investigation in the 1990s discovered that all of that stuff had disappeared sometime in the early seventies, almost as soon as the Appollo program ended. Pretty hard to believe, eh?
Plus did you know that the reason why the footage from the Appollo 11 landing was so blurry was that Nasa claimed that their TV camera format was incompatible with “normal” TV systems so they displayed the footage on a tiny 1960s TV screen and pointed a “normal” TV camera at it? So no one outside NASA has ever seen the original footage and they never will, since it was all destroyed forty years ago. It’s almost as though NASA didn’t want anyone getting a clear look at the “Moon surface” at the time.
December 16, 2013 @ 4:26 pm
They also never explained why some of the rocks were numbered.
My Husband Directed The Fake Moon Landing Says Stanley Kubrick’s Widow
http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=417#p1075
December 16, 2013 @ 3:57 pm
Climate Change? – don’t they mean climate manipulation by spraying crap in to the upper atmosphere. I wish more people would look up and see what is going on.
December 16, 2013 @ 5:03 pm
The BBC spent a lot of money on covering up who was at it’s climate change board on 26 January 2006 when the BBC decided that climate change was indisputable including a team of top lawyers led by an eminent QC.
Anyway here’s the full list of participants:
Specialists:
Robert May, Oxford University and Imperial College London
Mike Hulme, Director, Tyndall Centre, UEA
Blake Lee-Harwood, Head of Campaigns, Greenpeace
Dorthe Dahl-Jensen, Niels Bohr Institute, Copenhagen
Michael Bravo, Scott Polar Research Institute, University of Cambridge
Andrew Dlugolecki, Insurance industry consultant
Trevor Evans, US Embassy
Colin Challen MP, Chair, All Party Group on Climate Change
Anuradha Vittachi, Director, Oneworld.net
Andrew Simms, Policy Director, New Economics Foundation
Claire Foster, Church of England
Saleemul Huq, IIED
Poshendra Satyal Pravat, Open University
Li Moxuan, Climate campaigner, Greenpeace China
Tadesse Dadi, Tearfund Ethiopia
Iain Wright, CO2 Project Manager, BP International
Ashok Sinha, Stop Climate Chaos
Andy Atkins, Advocacy Director, Tearfund
Matthew Farrow, CBI
Rafael Hidalgo, TV/multimedia producer
Cheryl Campbell, Executive Director, Television for the Environment
Kevin McCullough, Director, Npower Renewables
Richard D North, Institute of Economic Affairs
Steve Widdicombe, Plymouth Marine Labs
Joe Smith, The Open University
Mark Galloway, Director, IBT
Anita Neville, E3G
Eleni Andreadis, Harvard University
Jos Wheatley, Global Environment Assets Team, DFID
Tessa Tennant, Chair, AsRia
BBC attendees:
Jana Bennett, Director of Television
Sacha Baveystock, Executive Producer, Science
Helen Boaden, Director of News
Andrew Lane, Manager, Weather, TV News
Anne Gilchrist, Executive Editor Indies & Events, CBBC
Dominic Vallely, Executive Editor, Entertainment
Eleanor Moran, Development Executive, Drama Commissioning
Elizabeth McKay, Project Executive, Education
Emma Swain, Commissioning Editor, Specialist Factual
Fergal Keane, (Chair), Foreign Affairs Correspondent
Fran Unsworth, Head of Newsgathering
George Entwistle, Head of TV Current Affairs
Glenwyn Benson, Controller, Factual TV
John Lynch, Creative Director, Specialist Factual
Jon Plowman, Head of Comedy
Jon Williams, TV Editor Newsgathering
Karen O’Connor, Editor, This World, Current Affairs
Catriona McKenzie, Tightrope Pictures
Liz Molyneux, Editorial Executive, Factual Commissioning
Matt Morris, Head of News, Radio Five Live
Neil Nightingale, Head of Natural History Unit
Paul Brannan, Deputy Head of News Interactive
Peter Horrocks, Head of Television News
Peter Rippon, Duty Editor, World at One/PM/The World this Weekend
Phil Harding, Director, English Networks & Nations
Steve Mitchell, Head Of Radio News
Sue Inglish, Head Of Political Programmes
Frances Weil, Editor of News Special Events
December 18, 2013 @ 2:09 am
If you will add the IQ of the full list of participants, you could “maybe” obtain a double digit figure!
December 16, 2013 @ 3:57 pm
Hi Chris and Dogman. Stanley Kubrick, one of the New World Order ‘gofers’. I watched ‘Clockwork Orange’ again the other week (for about the 5th time) and I have finally figured out what exactly this film is REALLY all about. Alex, the teenage psychopath, is an abused child. He is being molested by his parents. No wonder he is seriously fucked up. I know, I know. It doesn’t say anywhere in the film that Alex is being (or has been) sexually abused. But that is the genius of the film. It isn’t blatant in-yer-face. You have to work it out.
December 16, 2013 @ 4:38 pm
Lorraine.Thanks for watching that film 5 times to give us your insight.I seriously cannot ever watch it again.It fucked me up for a while.It was like a car crash for me.I should have turned away but watched in fascinated horror.
Traumatised!
A bit of a wimp .Assault on precinct 13 the original,I think of that and taking of pelham 123, ahh feel better now 🙂
Love HJ
PS sorry to keep you so busy today dogman x
December 16, 2013 @ 7:59 pm
“The Warriors” is also worth a look…..if still available. Same genre as the films you mentioned.
December 16, 2013 @ 9:53 pm
Wiggins, The Warriors, I love that film too! I don’t do torture films.Except Saw (one) .And sorry to go off topic too much but low-budget film ‘ Cube ‘ is pretty good (1997) not many seem to know it.
Anyway,Lorraine’s made of strong stuff!
December 16, 2013 @ 11:09 pm
This is worth a look also……….bit off the wall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BynXfREPG8
December 16, 2013 @ 4:03 pm
Fucking technology hey !!! No fucking use is it ! Can’t even create a live video stream from the landing in 2013. Not like the good old days of 45 years ago, with valve and transistor based instrumentation allowing us to get full live running commentary as the good old u.s.a put men on there !!! Not just some fucking rover.
Best be careful too, as it only looks small, and we all saw how easily the manned lunar rovers and the men bounced up in the air. That thing could initiate self orbit if it gets a good run of speed up, and hits a rock. I wonder what would happen if it flips onto its back by accident ?
December 16, 2013 @ 4:10 pm
I might have bleated this before but I’ll bleat it again: the UK foreign aid budget is just a slush fund used to bribe foreign fascist regimes into doing business with fascist corporations that claim to be London-based, all at UK taxpayers’ expense. And “doing business” just means allowing London-based fascist corporations to take a cut when the foreign fascist corporations loot our national assets.
India not only has nuclear weapons and a space program, but they have their own foreign aid budget too! As for us paying to fight climate change in China, where they build a new coal-fired power station every time someone orders kung-po chicken – who are they kidding?
On a totally different tangent, the US’ faked lunar rover had wire mesh wheels, not inflatable ones. Happy to help, Onejag. No charge.
December 16, 2013 @ 5:09 pm
Trevor:
The original film/photos of the Lunar Rover ( that somehow fitted in the 12 foot diameter LEM ) had inflatable tyres, they were changed to wire mesh in the early 1990s when the impossibility of inflatable tyres was pointed out.
December 16, 2013 @ 4:14 pm
P.S.. You all know why the yanks won’t say this is fake i presume !
December 16, 2013 @ 4:16 pm
If it flips on to it’s back they will have to walk across the studio and turn it the right way up..
December 16, 2013 @ 4:51 pm
You could be very right there. I must say, you have to love the curvature generated from a mere 50 metres. It’s amazing. You can watch it here.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=91b_1387128918
Then contrast it with some views of the Earth and distant horizons and land masses from a 747 here, great !
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=921_1387149399
December 16, 2013 @ 4:23 pm
Why the need for the Chinese to have “CHINA SPACE” in English on their lab coats? Is that to make sure we don’t confuse them with your average Doctor, or to help reinforce what you are seeing is indeed an amazing feat by the “China Space” team…! I loved the reference to the Blue Peter tubes – here’s a lunar rover I made up earlier.
It still amazes me that people believe that now, and also back in the 60’s the ‘footage’ was so good, when even at my house 40 odd years later, my cable provider often loses it’s signal from just down the road 😉
December 16, 2013 @ 4:29 pm
That nice Mr Mugabe in Zimbabwe was getting 80 million squids last report I read…..that was some years ago so it has probably doubled in the meantime. His people are starving yet he and his entourage fill plane loads of goodies from Milan, Paris and London courtesy of the British Taxpayer…….for shame!
December 16, 2013 @ 4:33 pm
the only people who’ve been to the moon are Wallace and Gromit… i know they went because i saw it on the BBC so it must be true!
not to mention the Russians would have spilt the beans if Wallace & Gromit faked it… i mean they were our deadly enemies weren’t they? erm no… but as most on here know you always need a boogeyman to justify spending billions on weapons and surveillance and to keep the public docile and living in fear…
December 16, 2013 @ 5:09 pm
Call me suspicious. But i would say this in an indirect, call your bluff threat from the Chinese to the Americans. They know the yanks are trying to pull the carpet out from underneath them in the Pacific Rim, and other places. This is happening both militarily, and financially ! I think this is a secret message of don’t fuck with us, or you will get it back.
December 16, 2013 @ 6:22 pm
buttonmoon you mean chris check this guy out i think he is right on the bullshit given by the so called moon landers
http://heiwaco.tripod.com/moontravel.htm
December 16, 2013 @ 9:44 pm
He also calls bullshit on atomic bombs:
http://heiwaco.tripod.com/bomb.htm
If true, it certainly adds to the long line of false flags in recent times.
December 16, 2013 @ 8:38 pm
Hmmm, I always wondered why no stars in the pictures. Must be that airbrushing them out was a real convenient way of making sure that the constellations did not align up in the photos. Then of course their is that real bastard to get across called the van Allen belt before you even get there, whilst of course making sure that the original standard kodak film used in a hasselblad camera will withstand the extreme hot and cold temps found on the moon and take a fantastic snapshot of a flapping flag with no atmosphere. Fucking amazing that. Best hurry on over to you tube and check out shining code 2.0 that should help. Landed on the moon, fuck me Capricorn one written all over it.
December 16, 2013 @ 8:45 pm
P.s whilst we are at it Dear Jim could you fix it for me to send Cameron and the rest of them On a one way trip to the moon please. Yours faithfully John James , Cheshire.
December 16, 2013 @ 9:21 pm
Oh and all that possible with computers on board with about the same processing power as a Texas Instruments calculator. Mind you a calculator would have helped out with the math I suppose.
December 16, 2013 @ 9:22 pm
This is the best site for busting the myth of man going to the moon –
http://davesweb.cnchost.com/Apollo1.html
Lots of facts and figures and ‘oh yeah, I never thought of that’ kind of stuff.
It’s a long but very entertaining read.
December 16, 2013 @ 11:36 pm
Dave has got a new comprehensive – up to date – Laurel Canyon book out…..
December 16, 2013 @ 9:37 pm
http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html
http://www.clavius.org/movies.html.
subscribing to this theory could lead some people to conclude that a lot of other stuff on this site has no merit either. not me of course.
December 16, 2013 @ 9:51 pm
no of course not you Richard. we realise that you are not stupid or naïve enough to believe that you lump all subjects featured on this or any other site into a collective pile lacking merit, if just one article proved to be wrong. since that link is less than conclusive to many people who have seen counter arguments over the years, it would just make anybody that thought that rather stupid, wouldn’t it. it would be childish logic at best but it appears to be all the MSM has left as they get ripped a new one on a regular basis. glad that you don’t agree with it fella. good for you!
December 16, 2013 @ 10:04 pm
Richard, did you at least have a look at that link I posted?
I actually believe they did put a man on the moon. But that is just a blind belief based on trust. But when I read that article, it really did make me question my beliefs. Let’s just say my mind is open. Like it is in the way that I believe vaccinations in principle are of great benefit to mankind as a whole, but enforced vaccination is totally wrong and everyone should have the right to research and make an informed decisions upon their findings. It’s not that difficult is it?
I’m happy to be called a fence-sitter. But when I do come down on one side of an argument, you’d better believe I have researched it to within an inch of its life and there is no doubt left in my mind. The jury is still out on the moon thing. All I know that there is no lie too great or story too incredible that those in power will not peddle. And the masses not lap up.
You sound as if you have already made your mind up. If so, why not take a few of the arguments from that website and refute them for me, if you have the time. But I’m sure you have better things to do.
December 16, 2013 @ 10:58 pm
hi Old Boy, nope if theres one thing i have plenty of its time lol, i will have a look at that website and it might very well give me pause for thought but in the end i always come back to this : it would be totally impossible to keep such a monumental hoax a secret, there would be too many people involved, someone at sometime would spill the beans and it hasn;t happened yet and its now 44 years, hope you look at the sites i posted too, especially the apolloarchive one, there are thousands of photographs on that one,are they all fake ? i remember watching the command module descending by parachute and landing in the sea, was that a hoax? were all the people on the ship that picked them up part of the hoax too? sorry its just too far fetched.
December 16, 2013 @ 11:47 pm
Right………..they went up 200 miles. Von Braun jacked it all in in 1970 because – he probably had enough of the bullshit.
You can think what you think…..and I will think what I think….no hard feelings.
December 17, 2013 @ 12:40 am
Ask Guss Grissom’s family if they think it was real !
December 17, 2013 @ 3:19 am
Hi Old Boy
Like you I do believe the septics landed on the moon but I also believe that the footage was faked. My theory is that Nixon wanted the world to see it but was told because the landing area would be a sea of fine dust then the landing rockets would throw up too much shite to be filmed properly so Nixon hired Kubrick to fake the landing for the public. This is why there are so many discrepancies, it’s the only conspiracy theory I know where both sides are correct.
Today I also think that the Chinese have landed there.
December 17, 2013 @ 4:05 pm
yeh dust was thrown up but they up there for 3 days. i think it might have settled by then.
December 18, 2013 @ 6:26 am
Not if you consider the low gravity of the moon.
December 16, 2013 @ 10:09 pm
cheers Dogman. much appreciated
December 16, 2013 @ 11:33 pm
I remember for the 30th anniversary landing, Ch 4 had an entire night of the original footage and other shows besides – taped the entire night as was working lates – next day went to watch the footage as I remembered the last of the Apollo stuff as a very young kid and like most others, was fascinated by it. Saw that there was a show about the conspiracy theory and weird as it sounded to me then, I actually watched this item first.
After an hour with David Percy, Andy Thomas et al – plus a lot of photos from Percy’s excellent book Dark Moon, that was me. Done. Dusted. ” We didn’t ‘kin go”!!! And so it was – my Damascus Road moment and so it has been ever since – I thought well if they lied about that, what else did they lie about?
It’s a handy rule of thumb I find.
Peace from Canada.
December 16, 2013 @ 11:57 pm
China sends rocket to moon …………………………….UK gives em 37 MILLION POUNDS AID??
India sends rocket to moon ……………………………….UK gives em 50 MILLION POUNDS AID….
QUOTE A POST ON HERE………………..MUGABE GETS 80 MILLION POUNDS AID FROM UK,FOR HIS WIFE TO GO SHOPPING IN EUROPE
MEANWHILE IN SOFT TOUCH UK………….FOOD BANKS OPEN UP ROUGHLY ONE PER WEEK MAYBE MORE,FOOD IS DONATED FREE BY BRITISH PUBLIC OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF THEIR HEARTS,TO FEED UK POPULATION WHO GOVERNMENT TAKE AWAY BENEFITS FROM………………………………………………REASON TO GIVE FOREIGN AID TO GREEDY BASTARDS WHO DONT NEED IT
MY GOD PEOPLE WAKE UP,WAKE UP TO REALITY PLEASE………………………..CHILDREN ARE GOING WITHOUT FOOD IN THE UK,CHILDREN ARE STARVING HERE IN THE UK………………………WHILST THE GOVERNMENT ARE THROWING AWAY OUR HARD EARNED TAXES TO ALL THE WORLD
December 17, 2013 @ 12:15 am
APOLOGIES I NEED TO GO LAY DOWN IN A DARKEND ROOM IN THE LOCAL LUNATIC ASYLUM…………………………………………..I DIDNT READ THROUGH THE ARTICLE ,JUST SEEN THE TRUE FIGURES OF FOREIGN AID WE ARE THROWING DOWN THE SEWER,WHILST PEOPLE HERE IN THE UK CAN NOT FEED THEMSELVES ???????????????????BLOODY LUNATICS ARE RUNNING THE ASYLUM
INDIA £290 MILLION
NIGERIA £208 MILLION
CHINA £27 PLUS MILLIONS
VIETNAM £51 MILLION
CAMBODIA £14.5 MILLION
INDONESIA £11.3 MILLION
KOSOVO £10 .2 MILLION
AND THE UK PUBLIC ARE ASKED TO DIG EVER DEEPER IN THEIR POCKETTS TO KEEP FOOD BANKS GOING…………………………………………WHILST THE CHILDREN STARVE …………THE GOVERNMENT ARE THROWING OUR HARD EARNED MONEY INTO NEVER ENDING SEWERS/MONEY PITS……………………………OMG WE TRULY HAVE LOST THE PLOT.
LITTLE CHILDREN TODAY ARE LIVING NO BETTER THAN IN VICTORIAN TIMES /DICKENS
I KNOW OF CHILDREN WHO GO TO SCHOOL WITHOUT BREAKFAST BECAUSE PARENTS CANT FEED THEM …..DUE TO BEDROOM TAX ECT
December 17, 2013 @ 4:39 am
Discernment – dis·cern·ment noun \di-ˈsərn-mənt, -ˈzərn-\
: the ability to see and understand people, things, or situations clearly and intelligently :
See, you don’t have to ‘believe’ everything on every site that asks you to question the mainstream media. Most of them ask you to use your ‘discernment’. There are many sites who ‘tell’ you that what they are reporting is ‘true’. Well, there ya go…chalk that one up to someone has TOLD me what they are saying is true, so therefore it must be!?
I don’t ready ANY alternative media without questioning. What I like to do, as Chris does in his own way, is to read the MSM, read the Alternative Media and then process it through my own mind.
More often than not, the MSM show themselves to lie so much they’d die of shock if the real truth ever hit them. Having said that, there are also so called AM that try the same shit. You have a brain.. use it. We ARE in an information war…if you think the AM is ‘totally telling the truth’.. well, you’re in no better shape than you were before. Look at it all. But the big thing for me has always been, connect the dots, and connect the money and people… simple. And as Chris says a lot, you can tell a character by the company they keep.
People are slowly waking up to the idea that most people really do want to live in harmony, despite the fanatics on all sides. So, the ‘terrorist’ thing is not working, so let’s do another class war. Throw those so called useless eaters back a few hundred years – let’s forget that many of them had great jobs, lost them, and now rely on some kind of aid that they have paid into for years. Shame on them!!! And those still at the bottom, of course there are those that really don’t want to work, but way more really do, and they want their independence from all Government interference to have a good life. But no, lets kick them all back to the gutter and shame them too by using just a few examples??? Oh my! The elite have NO intention of bringing back well paying jobs, unless it is for their little buddies. The rest of us can go to hell. It is happening ALL over the world.
Sorry this is a bit off topic for the actual post, but I am so fed up of people who won’t even consider that if our respective Governments lie about ONE thing… they aren’t capable of making it an ongoing project? To me, this is yet another one.
CHINA SPACE – thank you for making it clear not only who you were, where you were, but despite all the so called advanced technology, the best YOU could show some 40 odd years later… an animated CGI impression of the landing?
Sigh…….
December 17, 2013 @ 6:13 am
Now the House of Lords are clocking in to just claim their £300 daily expenses, honestly they just take us for mugs! Foreign aid should be scrapped unless we actually see the accounts where the money is used in the countries we throw our money down the loo to. Yeah, as if!!! Just money bunged to them for favours the likes of which we will never really find out the truth about, unless we make our voices HEARD!
December 17, 2013 @ 1:47 pm
Is the lunar rover still up there? if so we should be able to see it! can’t see how they would bring it back in the lander as it is far to small. Any amateur or pro telescope guys that can see the moon?
Andy
December 17, 2013 @ 7:19 pm
NASA released photos either early this year or last year of the landing sites taken through a telescope, showing all the gear that was left behind. This was obviously to dispell any disbelief in the official narrative. Since NASA would never potatoshop a picture it must all be real.
December 17, 2013 @ 6:01 pm
i have a vague memory of one of the later Apollo missions photographing the section of the lunar module from Apollo 11 that was left on the moon when they took off to rendevouz with the orbiting command module.there were also a series of very precisely aligned mirrors left by the Apollo missions. these are used to reflect lasers sent from earth which are used to calculate the distance between the Earth and the Moon. these mirrors could not have been deployed by an unmanned mission,
December 17, 2013 @ 6:38 pm
scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/01/25/why-the-moon-landing-could-not-have-been-a-hoax-it-wasnt-technologically-possible-to-fake-it/
December 17, 2013 @ 7:11 pm
We may have been to the moon, but the films and pics we have been shown are highly unlikely to be real recordings of the actual event.
Neil Armstrong and Edwin “Buzz” Aldrin saw UFOs shortly after landing Apollo 11 on the moon. The following conversation was picked up by ham radio operators that had their own VHF receiving facilities that bypassed NASA’s broadcasting outlets. At the time this happened, live television broadcast was interrupted for two minutes due to a supposed “overheated camera”, but the transmission below was received by hundreds of ham radio operators.
According to Otto Binder, who was a member of the NASA space team, when the moon-walkers, Aldrin and Armstrong were making their rounds some distance from the LEM, Armstrong clutched Aldrins’s arm excitedly and exclaimed:
Armstrong: What was it? What the hell was it? That’s all I want to know!
Mission Control: What’s there? Malfunction (garble).Mission Control calling Apollo 11
Apollo 11: These babies were huge, sir!…. Enormous!… Oh God! You wouldn’t believe it!….I’m telling you there are other space-craft out there…lined up on the far side of the crater edge!…They’re on the Moon watching us!
In 1979 Maurice Chatelain, former chief of NASA Communications Systems confirmed that Armstrong had indeed reported seeing two UFOs on the rim of a crater. “The encounter was common knowledge in NASA,” he revealed, “but nobody has talked about until now.”
Maurice Chatelain also confirmed that Apollo 11’s radio transmissions were interrupted on several occasions in order to hide the news from the public.
Soviet scientist were allegedly the first to confirm the incident.
According to an Associated Press story of July 20, 1969 published in the San Bernanardino Sun-Telegram, the astronauts sighted eerie lights inside a crater near the point on the Moon where their lunar lander was due to touch down the next day.
On their first sweep around the Moon, Armstrong described a mysterious bright light on the inner wall of the crater Aristarchus, located north of their flight path. “It seems to have a slight amount of florescence to it. The area in the crater is quite bright.” He reported. “That area is definitely brighter than anything else. I can see. There doesn’t appear to be any color involved in it. It looks like an eerie sight,” confirmed Aldrin.
Two astronauts who broke rank are Dr. Edgar Mitchell and Gordon Cooper on The Oprah Winfrey Show on July 19, 1991. Mitchell hinted that all information regarding UFOs has not been released, saying, “I do believe that there is a lot more known about extraterrestrial investigation than is available to the public right now (and) has been for a long time. It’s a long, long story. It goes back to World War II when all of that happened, and is highly classified stuff.
On Dateline NBC in 1996, Mitchell was even more candid, “I have no firsthand experience, but I have had the opportunity to meet with people from three countries who in the course of their official duties claim to have had personal firsthand encounter experiences with extraterrestrials.”
I will be posting additional quotes hundreds of ham radio operators intercepted over many of the Apollo missions. These were first published in the now out of print book “Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon” by Don Wilson (Dell 1975.)
Source: Extraterrestrials, UFO, NASA-CIA-Aliens Mind Boggling Theories, Stories and Reports Anunnaki, Zeta Reticuli, Area 51, Abductees, Whistleblowers, Conspirators. The Real & The Fake. by Maximillien de Lafayette. Quotes are reprinted from as is from “Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon” by Don Wilson.
December 17, 2013 @ 7:14 pm
Apologies for all the text. I was gonna say search “those babies were huge” but better judgement kicked in. FTS & arm-urself-now could have got lost for days!
December 17, 2013 @ 7:26 pm
Bill Kaysing, a technical writer for Rocketdyne, which built rocket engines for NASA’s Apollo program, published a 1974 book, “We Never Went to the Moon: America’s Thirty Billion Dollar Swindle.”
In the book and elsewhere, Kaysing argued that NASA lacked the technology in 1969 to land humans safely on the moon, that the Apollo astronauts would have been poisoned by passing through the Van Allen radiation belts that ring the Earth and that NASA’s photos from the moon contained suspicious anomalies. See improved NASA footage of the 1969 moonwalk »
Kaysing theorized NASA sent the Apollo 11 astronauts up in a rocket until it was out of sight, then transferred the lunar capsule and its three passengers to a military cargo plane that dropped the capsule eight days later in the Pacific, where it was recovered. In the meantime, he believed, NASA officials filmed the “moon landing” at Area 51, the high-security military base in the Nevada desert, and brainwashed the astronauts to ensure their cooperation.
Some believe Kaysing’s theories inspired the 1978 movie “Capricorn One,” in which NASA fakes a Mars landing on a remote military base, then goes to desperate lengths to cover it up. Others insist NASA recruited director Stanley Kubrick, hot off “2001: A Space Odyssey,” to film the “faked” moon landings.
Oh, and those moon rocks? Lunar meteorites from Antarctica.
Decades later, Kaysing’s beliefs formed the foundation for “Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?” a sensational 2001 Fox TV documentary that spotted eerie “inconsistencies” in NASA’s Apollo images and TV footage.
Among them: no blast craters are visible under the landing modules; shadows intersect instead of running parallel, suggesting the presence of an unnatural light source; and a planted American flag appears to ripple in a breeze although there’s no wind on the moon.
The hour-long special sparked such interest in the topic that NASA took the unusual step of issuing a news release and posting a point-by-point rebuttal on its Web site. The press release began: “Yes. Astronauts did land on the moon.”
In various documents, NASA has countered that the Apollo astronauts passed through the Van Allen belts too quickly to be exposed to dangerous levels of radiation; that the module’s descent engines weren’t powerful enough to leave a blast crater; that the shadows in photos were distorted by wide-angle lenses and sloping lunar terrain; and that the Apollo flags had horizontal support bars that made the flags swing.
Kaysing died in 2005, but not before grabbing the attention of Sibrel, a Nashville, Tennessee, filmmaker who has since become the most visible proponent of the Apollo hoax theories. With funding from an anonymous donor, Sibrel wrote and directed a 47-minute documentary in 2001 that reiterated many of the now-familiar hoax arguments.
Critics of moon-landing hoax theorists, and there are many, say it would be impossible for tens of thousands of NASA employees and Apollo contractors to keep such a whopping secret for almost four decades.
But Sibrel believes the Apollo program was so compartmentalized that only its astronauts and a handful of high-level NASA officials knew the entire story. Sibrel spent years ambushing Apollo astronauts and insisting they swear on a Bible before his cameras that they walked on the moon.
December 17, 2013 @ 8:07 pm
As in here !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cfBFwE9VmY
and here !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELDWztp8nqc
December 17, 2013 @ 8:12 pm
P.S Dickie, don’t think the Chinese would not lie either !
Faked space walk !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBL98p0wZ7g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVbBFwdmldA
December 17, 2013 @ 8:29 pm
Some interesting reading here:
Pari Spolter in her 1993 book “Gravitational Source of the Sun” mathematically and scientifically proves that Newtons Law of Universal Gravitation that says that mass/density creates gravity is wrong. Gravity is caused by Keplers Third Law which states that gravitational force is caused by the product of acceleration and an area of a circle the radius of which is the mean distance between that planet and the sun. Formulas using Newtons F=M1M2/r2 are totally wrong. Therefore the correct computation for the moons gravity would be using the Bullialdus/Newton Law of Inverse Square which doesn’t require mass/density computations is 64% that of earth’s.
That said the lunar lander weight was 33,000 pounds including 22,000 pounds of hypergolic fuel.
For this craft to descend from an orbit of 60 miles, land, then takeoff and climb back to 60 miles would be impossible in 64% of earth’s gravity.
The videos of the astronauts on the moon showed them barely able to leap 18 inches. If it had truly been one sixth gravity they should have been able to jump much higher.
The door on the lander was smaller than a moon-suited astronaut could have entered or exited. Also the door is rectangular and opens out which would have been unlikely because of the engineering problems in a pressure seal.
There were no couches, seats or chairs in the lunar lander. Both astronauts stood up for orbital descent and ascent with only a hand rest and waist strap for support. In the ascent state Jim Irwin, in his book “To rule the Night” claims the acceleration on takeoff from the moon was 3000 ft/sec. It would have been impossible for astronauts to have accomplished a take off from the moon under those conditions.
The backgrounds of the moon for all alleged 6 missions were approximately the same and many photos were shown to have more than one lighting source.
Bill Kaysing was contacted by an airline pilot who, along with 8 others witnessed the Apollo 11 Command Module being pushed out of a Lockheed C-5A about the time that Apollo 11 was allegedly coming back from the moon.
The close-up photos of the landing pads of the lunar lander showed no dust which is impossible as dust can be clearly seen blowing in the NASA produced landing video.
The close-up photo of the area directly below the rocket exhaust of the lunar lander shows no depression or indication that a rocket had ever been used for landing.
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/02files/John_Lear_on_the_Apollo_Missions.html
December 17, 2013 @ 10:02 pm
Firstly,wow,so many fookin responses I will need loads of time to read them.No doubt there will be some gems as per.My one and only point is thus,is it just me or does anybody else think that the Yankie Doodles have an obsession with jam jars.How the fuck (if they did indeed land on the Moon,which they didn’t) get a fucking car up there complete with statalite dish (Del boy) when there is no obvious way of removing it from the,hahahahahaha spacecraft.Fuck me is there anyone in the Fucking Main Stream Media who is actually awake at any point in the day.I doubt it very much,well I have to go folks as I am off on my annual winter break to Saturn,the weather is fantastic there at this time of year.Tally Ho you Ho’s.Ho Ho Ho.
December 17, 2013 @ 11:24 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGXTF6bs1IU.
sorry that previous link didnt work. try this
December 17, 2013 @ 11:57 pm
Government Wasting billions on space rockets ********, myself and another lady councillor have spent all evening seeking a poor old boy with all his belongings living in an open bus shelter,my son and his mate spotted him the other night as they came off the M1 motorway,and asked us to find him and offer him help.
We went out to search for him but no sign……………after searching a couple of hours we found him he had moved along with all his worldly goods,two holdhalls ,he was wrapped up in a sleeping bag in a different bus shelter………………………we offered him help and told him where to find the soup kitchen and food banks,we are unable to force him from the bus shelter,but we gave him £10 out of our own pocketts(I know not a lot…but better than nothing)we are both OAP`S……………………………………………I really am devastated after tonight ,all choked up as I do this post ………………………………………..and all this ****** govt can say is “its every man for himself ……..man the lifeboats” as UK sinks,what fkin planet are these evil knuts living on ????next rocket going I vote all bankers ,mp`s are all shoved aboard and fired into the burning pits of hell ,do they exist ???????I can only hope,if not we are going to need extra fuel for this coming winter,if not burn in hell the local gasworks will do for the whole lot of the scum,I will do the shoveling free of charge
December 18, 2013 @ 12:05 am
You’re right about Govt my lovely friend. I guess it was your usual friend that was the other Angel. You humble most of us. I’m proud to know you.
Dogman x
December 17, 2013 @ 11:59 pm
‘ the comfort of being a rebel ‘
‘ the knowledge that you’re being lied to, to believing everything is a lie, is a very big step ‘.
December 18, 2013 @ 12:09 am
Agreed Richard. But there are obviously far too many lies being fed to us.
“People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid.”
– Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
“Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.”
– Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
“A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.”
– Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
December 18, 2013 @ 10:01 am
i;m not saying there isnt Dogman but some people have got to to the state of being so scared of being ‘ conned ‘ or being deemed ‘asleep ‘ and have a ‘won’t get fooled again ‘ attitude that they see conspiracies in everything and everywhere. its in danger of becoming a’ peter and the wolf ‘ scenario.
December 18, 2013 @ 12:06 am
love the way he handles the predictable ‘ ah he’s being paid by NASA ‘ responses with his ‘ cheque from NASA ‘ joke at the end. lol
December 18, 2013 @ 8:49 am
Well Dickie…The simple fact is, that you and people like you, believe nearly every crock of old shit that a couple of posh cunts from any nation tell you. Then you simply attempt to ridicule those who would question what are unproven acts and gestures anyway. You actually do this in the condescending manner, not any of the conspiracy theorists. You believe mostly all of the shit you are fed, without question, and simply seek to denounce those who are at the end of the day, at worst, simply not as gullible as you and the many millions like you.
So carry on sitting in your glass house, and being in reality biased whilst attempting to appear to appear neutral and courteous. The fact of the matter is, that neither the ones you support, nor the likes of yourself can actually prove anything to the contrary of what any so called conspiracy theorist believes. Now, if i were in your position ( As if, LOL) I would at least be prepared to question my own stance, and realise that my foundations are actually as strong as hot dog shit in a heatwave.
So support them all you want; bottom line is once again, your are not fucking sure either way, and will never be anything other, as your loyal good leaders are not going to offer anything to the contrary for at least several decades !
They are so right in everything aren’t they. There are actually no problems in the world, as we just like a good moan and are making all them up too !
December 18, 2013 @ 8:57 pm
you make an elementary error FTS, you think because i question some things and don’t believe some conspiracy theories than that must mean i therefore fall for everything the ‘PTB ‘ stand for and believe everything the say and do. i don’t. you think i believe there are no problems in the world? lol and you call ME condescending.. !
December 18, 2013 @ 9:35 pm
You keep kidding yourself Dickie……On all counts ! If that’s the case, don’t worry about what other people think about, especially if you think they may not be correct. After all, you can neither enlighten nor dismiss any of the points with any degree of certainty. Concentrate on what you feel is true ! One way or the other.
You believe the problems in the world happen by accident Dickie. With no force behind them, no motive. As such, you fence sit worse than the one legged pigeon that comes into my back garden.
That last comment is the most definite one i have ever seen you make.
Except it was incorrect too ! lol.
December 18, 2013 @ 12:19 am
Thanks Dogman for your kind words,gives us both the courage and hope to carry on,lol yes you are correct in thinking who the Angel is,you know we are partners in crime trying to help the downtroddon of this country……………………………….its one long uphill struggle afraid ,most of the time we fall back down the hill…………………………….but we aint giving up yet ,not for a long time………………………………………..also the rewards are priceless ………………………………..the old boys face lit up when we approached him and offered him kindness and help…………………………it leaves a lasting picture in your heart
XXXXXXX BIG HUGS TO YOU AND YOURS AND FOUR LEGGED BABIES
December 18, 2013 @ 9:59 pm
next.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/
December 19, 2013 @ 12:12 am
featured-sites.lroc.asu.edu/lroc_features/Apollo%2017/feature_highlights/114
my last one. on this matter. this photo shows the Apollo 17 lunar module on the moon. the trails left by the LEV ( lunar excursion vehicle) can be clearly seen. of course if you think this is faked theres not much i can do about that. carry on thinking it.
December 19, 2013 @ 1:33 am
Tell you what dick burpin i will make a vid with fake pic’s and real ones and video to , everything , you tell me which is real and which is fake in the vid ok , POA .
December 19, 2013 @ 12:58 am
hahaha ! fucking hell Dickie, those pictures are even darker than your sense of humour ! lmao.
December 19, 2013 @ 11:04 am
well you could try down-loading the high resolution image (571mb) . i tried but was going to take over an hour. i;m done on this, wasting my time.
December 19, 2013 @ 1:50 pm
I don’t need to mate…I will just watch a couple of old episodes of SPACE 1999 lmfao.
December 19, 2013 @ 2:06 pm
P.S. They have probably spent the last 40 years, trying to sneak stuff up there remotely, in order to make it look like they had men on the fucker. I shall take your stance Dickie, inasmuch as i will believe it when i see it with my own eyes in H.D. Real men, not models, no wires, plenty of debris, uncooked through space travel outside the upper atmosphere, not dead as a result of ultra high speed particles penetrating their suits, thus opening them up to a vacuum.
Quite simply Dickie, it is the likes of you who are telling other people to believe, what amounts to no more than a Hollywood blockbuster, because the government says so. I have an uncle like you. He’s such a laugh. Cannot entertain the thought that he may have been duped all his life, so dismisses the ideas and notions of others based on his being told so, by the sneakiest most deceiving people on the planet !
Moon Base Alpha – Over and out ! Beeep !
December 19, 2013 @ 4:07 pm
gawd. did you look at the alsj site? there are literally thousands of pages on there, including video , photographs, countless hours of audio, detailed diagrams. of everything possibly involved not just from APOLLO 11 but from all the Apollo missions. this must be the best hoax in the history of the universe. ! !. what about the mirrors which are used to calculate the distance between the moon and earth. impossible to deploy by unmanned missions. anyway i;m definately done now . i;m pissing in the wind.
December 19, 2013 @ 5:21 pm
LMAO you mean those lunar reflectors !!! hahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahah hahahahahahahah hahahahhahahah Please don’t make me laugh ! You would need to be aiming the fucking lasers through the Hubble deep field to hit those fuckers ! And to get the strike back to Earth with any accuracy…The link that Dogman gave in the forum, showed that apparently they could receive a signal by simply firing at the surface of the moon anyway. This was before they came out with the reflector theory, in order to measure distance. Personally, i think both are highly unlikely scenarios. You know when you consider we are moving at approx 13.8 miles per second through space as a body, then rotating at around a 1000 miles per hour into the bargain.
So, you fire your laser at a less than a metre squared target 200,000 miles away, hit it..due to the fact you were aiming about 20 miles in front of where you think it is ? You know, for the distance the body has travelled through space in the 1 1/4 light seconds. Then you wait for the other 1 1/4 light seconds as luckily enough, you hit that other reflector just in the right spot, so that it deflected the beam enough to be aiming another 20 odd miles in front of where you are when it hit it, so that it neatly equates to point around 40 miles further away than what you were, when you started to fire the laser 3 seconds ago’ ish !!! Fuck off ! And i don’t even care if the maths say it can be done, not to mention our own rotation. It would be like having two spinning roundabouts in a kids park a mile apart and trying to hit your mate with a fucking sniper rifle. haha !
Better still imagine 2 large ships a mile apart trying to fire a supply line between them, when each are doing 25 knots in rough seas. Let me know what you are aiming at Dickie if it takes one and a half seconds for the line to cover the distance ! Then as yours lands on deck (lol) The guy who catches it, immediately fires one back to you ! as you are steering a course away from him. haha ! oh fucking hell !
December 19, 2013 @ 9:28 pm
‘we are travelling at 13.8 miles per second through space ‘ errrrrrrrr so is the moon lol.
December 19, 2013 @ 10:11 pm
haha you ever jumped out of a plane Dickie ? ok have a 10 foot gap between 2 planes flying at the same speed. And jump from one to the other ! let me know how you get on !
I think the 200,000 mile gap may have a slight effect.
You been working on that haven’t you ! i can tell yeah.
December 19, 2013 @ 10:21 pm
and no i don’t do maths. But i may start !
December 19, 2013 @ 10:48 pm
me jumping out of a plane is a tad different to a laser travelling at 186,000 per second. since the moon and the earth are both orbiting the sun at the same speed the 13.8 miles per second is wholly irrelevant.
December 19, 2013 @ 11:02 pm
Irrelevant ? what’s a big grey mammal got to do with it ? , anyway I doubt a irrelevant could jump between two chairs never mind two planes unless of course you were using jumbo’s , no charge .
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December 19, 2013 @ 10:22 pm
I might fucking have to lol.
December 19, 2013 @ 10:41 pm
Best you do , not everything you type adds up lmao , just saying , no charge .
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December 19, 2013 @ 11:21 pm
fuck off you, i was giving approximations.
December 19, 2013 @ 11:08 pm
please feel free to do some maths Dickie, or anyone else who does. My reasoning off the top of my head is as follows.
let’s see…if we are aiming at point a on the moon. by the time the laser hits the surface, it has taken 1 1/4 seconds to get there, across the gap of space. Therefore the point of impact will be about 20 miles from where we were aiming ? yes/ no ?
the distance to cover, has an effect, even on light ! so it is significant. the light left this object, travels through space and hits the moon 1 1/4 seconds later..we and the moon are both now, approx 20 miles, further away from the point at which the light left us. yes/ no ?
the return angle of reflection of the beam must then intersect us in another 1 1/4 seconds time, at exactly the same place the initial beam left us, back down the lens. hmm ! during which time both objects have covered another 20 odd miles ? yes/ no ?
I don’t see the fact that the moon has a synchronous orbit and always shows the same face towards us will detract from this fact. In the time taken for the light to get there and back, both objects will be approx 40 miles from where they were, when the initial pulse of light left this object. yes/ no ? Distance covered approx 400,000 miles or app. 2.5 light seconds.
That’s how i see it Dickie. Even without that, I don’t believe they have the reflectors there in the first place.
December 20, 2013 @ 12:33 am
Could i be missing out on the velocity of us carrying the light in the first place ? lol. Is that what you are saying Dickie ? Does the light not become independent of the bodies as it travels ? You see i feel the angular velocity would still be affected by the distance the light has to travel.
We see the moon as it was 1 1/4 seconds ago. So in reality, it has actually moved some measure of a degree in that time due to our rotation and is actually not in the same place either. Hmm ! I feel this will be some measure of miles, irrespective. Then by the time the light gets here, we have 2.5 seconds of rotation which would be leaving us 3/4 of a mile away across the surface ! I will have to work on this Dickie. It’s a work in progress.
Either way. They could not hit the fucking reflectors anyway. 1/ Because they are not there. 2/ Even if they were, they could not see them . 3/ I don’t think they have the accuracy on any device.
December 20, 2013 @ 12:37 am
My mobile is accurate , POA .
December 20, 2013 @ 1:32 am
Off topic but thought people should know at this time of year.
It is being called the perfect crime and it has law enforcement around the globe baffled.
It all starts with a simple email.
“They are scared and they are angry. It is a real terrible experience for them.”
Joe Ruthaford is talking about computer users who mistakenly launched a potent internet phishing scheme.
He recently saw one of those ravaged computers in his Beacon Hill repair shop.
“It is extremely damaging. It is one of the worst ones.”
It’s called cryptolocker ransomware.
Kevin Swindon is with the FBI in Boston.
“I would think about this particular type of malware as what would happen if your computer was destroyed,” Swindon said.
In the past 90 days, thousands of people worldwide have opened a seemingly innocuous link to track a holiday package. Suddenly, all the files on their computer are encrypted.
Joan Goodchild is the editor of “CSO,” Chief Security Officer magazine based in Framingham.
“This is a criminal operation. They are holding your folders and files ransom. We call this ransomware because that is exactly what it is. You need to pay in order to have access to them once again.”
And that is exactly what happened last month at the Swansea Police Department.
Cryptolocker ransomware took over the department’s entire computer system and the police were forced to pay a $750 ransom to get back control.
As the ransomware takes over your computer, a countdown clock appears and shows victims how long they have to pay up. That means purchasing a key, or software, to reverse the process. And victims must do that using the online virtual currency known as bitcoins.
“Once you have purchased a bitcoin, then the transaction that you use that bitcoin in is encrypted, and therefore you cannot trace it,” explained Goodchild.
Swindon says it appears to be the perfect crime.
The FBI tells WBZ-TV they are very worried about this spreading in 2014.
The scheme could be the work of organized gangs overseas. So far, no one has been caught.
December 20, 2013 @ 2:55 pm
“And that is exactly what happened last month at the Swansea Police Department.
Cryptolocker ransomware took over the department’s entire computer system and the police were forced to pay a $750 ransom to get back control.” , lmao , who the hell do they employ these day’s , first thing you do is have any system backed up , secondly you put in another hard drive and re-install from back up , talk about thick I give up on the clowns , lesson is don’t open emails with attachments off people you don’t know or click on link’s that are in email’s unless you know that person , just saying , no charge .
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December 20, 2013 @ 9:31 am
Hey Dickie, a few articles on here they say they can do it as the return laser covers a track of around 15 km on Earths surface. Image here http://www.optcorp.com/articles/moon-facts/
here http://www.moonlandinghoax.org/8.html
Check around on line anyway…So we can be extra picky with my plane reference and remove the effects of drag on the object attempting to pass between the 2, as gravity and air would have an effect. That being said…
for the amount of photons they fire out as compared to the amount they say they receive at their measuring equipment i still call massive bullshit. Prove me wrong ! Anyone…..I don’t care what the paid for scientists theorize about.! Prove it.
I think you will still have light aberration effects, and initial latency. That would be very significant. And i do not believe hand placed reflectors would do the trick. I think you would be needing to aim at a reflector about the size of a football pitch !
As regards that crime Dogman. Well, everyone should have all their vital files backed up in a separate storage device…..Then if this happens to them. Completely wipe the hard drive, and reinstall the operating system then re load all your information. Either that, or simply purchase a new hard drive and reload your info once you have reinstalled the O/S
December 20, 2013 @ 4:13 pm
There is also a quote used on that last site Dickie, as they are against the moon hoax theory. In it they say, Prof. Brian Cox says “The moon landings never happened, well to say that you may as well say America was never discovered.” This is bollocks, i saw one of his documentaries that they are referring to, and he was having a genuine debate with his cameraman in the car. He was not sure of himself at all, and was trying to reinforce the fact to himself. He was not saying it as a statement of fact. He was saying it in a questioning manner. As in, oh they must, must have mustn’t they ? They could not have faked it ?
You will probably never get a line out of him like that again due to his in your face t.v celeb status.
December 20, 2013 @ 11:32 pm
i saw that and i read it a different way. i thought his attitude was ‘ its such a stoooooooopid conspiracy theory i;m simply not going to waste my breath trying to argue against it ‘.
December 21, 2013 @ 9:36 am
No Dickie…That is what he wanted to say…But he could not, he was trying to reassure himself ! He kept repeating it to himself ! As he had doubts…Looks like you misread that too. He did not state…the moon hoax theories were bollocks at all ! He was debating between the schools of thought..That is why he was saying, they wouldn’t have faked it, would they ???
I saw that documentary- Now i know for sure, you are either taking the piss, or acting very stupid for a reason…Why would he sit having a candid discussion with his cameraman like that ? They could have just said, for anyone to suggest anything else is bollocks, and he did not !!! He was a fucking Academic, on national t.v trying to make sure he knew enough of what he was talking about, as to reaffirm his beliefs, by talking to a LAYMAN.
Besides- into the bargain anyway, Cox is a fucking particle Physicist. I have read some of his papers. He is like a fucking high tech mechanic, not a fucking cosmologist.
December 20, 2013 @ 4:21 pm
So if i were on the moon and a lighthouse was constantly spinning around in space firing its beam of light out. And it hit me every couple of seconds. When i actually saw that beam of light hit me on the moon, where would the actual beam of light from the lighthouse be pointing ? Given that it has taken 1 1/4 seconds to reach me ? To me it seems like the same principle Dickie, just with a far bigger object.
December 20, 2013 @ 4:31 pm
This test was performed using the latest available scientific equipment , a torch taped to a roundabout , 6 can’s of Stella and a deckchair , POA .
December 20, 2013 @ 4:42 pm
Well, even if i have some slightly mathematical flaws, I will attempt to correct them, or cover them up..with a fine selection of logical comparisons. llllooollll More than that cunt does ! lol.
December 20, 2013 @ 4:49 pm
Oh yeah, p.s Dickie..apparently Nasa stopped using the reflectors in 2009 anyway. As they no longer saw the value to be gained by scientific experiment with them. They felt it was not worth the mere $125,000 a year to keep the project going !!! Hmm Nice timing i would say. You think NASA worries about spending $125,000 in a year on a project ? Fuck Off ! They would not mind spending that much a day on Bog paper !
December 20, 2013 @ 7:11 pm
If you fired a laser beam at a reflector on the moon’s surface, wouldn’t the reflector have to be absolutely perpendicular to the beam to be reflected straight back and not go off at an angle? In which case you might not see anything?
December 20, 2013 @ 7:58 pm
I would imagine so mate…That’s why i am so happy they placed them by hand ! You know, for the sake of inaccuracy ! Like trying to shine a beam at a mirror and have it bounce right back on the correct angle of reflection, so as you only see one beam.
Except they say they are doing it a 200,000 miles ! Which is nice. Because as the beam came back, you would have rotated away from where you were initially firing it from. That is why the moon climbs in the sky.
December 20, 2013 @ 11:39 pm
http://www.fesg.bv.tum.de/91872-bD1lbg-~fesg~forschung~llr.html
this must be total garbage then.
December 20, 2013 @ 11:49 pm
spie.org/x38304.xml
ooops that other one isnt working. strange.
December 21, 2013 @ 12:23 am
Yeah, I read a post on that Dickie, Very similar. All interesting stuff. I must remember next time i wanna use a laser tape measure to set my reflector up ! Or next time i wanna guess a 400 metre target, not to bother with Carl Zeiss range finders or Nikon…you know, cos i will have to run out and put my reflector there ! So as to obtain a decent return. Hmm ! Millions of hunters running around trying to tape little reflectors on their quarry.
December 21, 2013 @ 1:06 am
Yeah i heard that Al-Cia-Quada had been given reflectors as rewards and told them to wear them all the time , lmfao what nonsense , there are a few ways to bend light but the speed involved is beyond our technology , although you could try Poundland , no charge .
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December 21, 2013 @ 1:23 am
lol..Al Qaida…Double deal on at Halfords…one reflector free for the taliban to stick on their motorbikes for every man worn one. Prince harry dropped 5000 for charity, to help him pick people out when he was gunning the Apache ! lol.
December 21, 2013 @ 12:36 am
btw. that site must ‘be in on the conspiracy as well’ come onnnnnnnnn !!!
December 21, 2013 @ 11:54 am
http://www.physics.ucsd.edu/~tmurphy/apollo/lrrr.html
chaps there comes a point when you just have to face facts. you have got this one wrong. admit it. be a man ! Dogman is very quiet on this. what do you think?
December 21, 2013 @ 1:06 pm
Fuck off Dickie ! What the fuck does that prove ? The Russians lost their lunar rover with its range finder for 40 years lol….and these discovered it ! haha. fuck me…talk about needle in a haystack. What did they use ? A fucking lunar TOMTOM ? I notice a slightly larger degree of vitriol in your comments recently Dickie…
I think you will find that is subconscious denial ! A sort of implied circumstantial evidence, that in itself can’t be proved either. Very nice tickery.
Last week i was at the summit of Mt.Everest without oxygen in my t. shirt. I carved my name in the rock and said fts was ere ! I did Dickie. Of course i can’t prove that at this time but neither can you disprove it. So just accept it as fact like you have with the moon. After all, at least we know people have genuinely been to the summit.
December 21, 2013 @ 1:13 pm
Oh yeah..and now they are only hitting a 1/2 square metre target at 200,000 miles hahahahahahahaha I gave them 100 % extra surface area by mistake ! hahahaha 50 cm square at 200,000 miles hahaha aww shit. they are hitting a half square metre target, but they can’t get an image resolution down to less than 25 metres even with their lunar orbiters, and high powered cameras. hahahahahaha hahahahaha Oh Dickie…hahaha deary me.
December 21, 2013 @ 1:20 pm
I took my spray can and left a load of graffiti at the top , you could see it from a sattelite I hoped , but I did a Dickie and used white spray paint , duh silly me , POA .
December 21, 2013 @ 1:28 pm
P.P.S The actual design of those reflectors would not be what you require would it ? As if they are designed to fire a beam back to source when hit from any angle. Due to the rotation of the Earth, as i have previously stated, the source would be 3/4 mile away from where it was when it sent the beam out in the first place.
Have they built rotation compensated stations everywhere on Earth 3/4 mile away from their laser sources too ! Fuck off ! .277 miles per second of rotation i think.
You know, the indisputable thing that gives us night and day.
December 21, 2013 @ 1:42 pm
Dickie here is actual footage of the first moon landing in black and white , they made two attempts as you can see , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esOiB_fanzI POA .
December 21, 2013 @ 2:04 pm
Richard, I think the moon footage is unquestionably faked, and clumsily done, maybe a rush job, but that is not to say that man hasn’t been to the moon, which if anyone looked at the links I provided they would understand. The method of propulsion could well be totally different, considering the budgets that the space programme and the Military Industrial Complex have had access to in the last 50+ yrs. The technology displayed in the so called Apollo 11 days is VERY primitive. NASA only tell us a portion of what they know and they doctor all pics and films we receive in the public domain. There are structures on the moon that look artificial. There are also anomalies on Mars that I posted about on the previous forum. I will dig them up in good time.
December 21, 2013 @ 2:43 pm
ok. according to you the picture of the reflector with the apollo 11 lunar module in the background is a fake. why go to all the trouble of getting fake photos which include a reflector? what would be the point?you are not denying that reflectors have been used ? if they were taken up by some other ‘secret craft’ which no has seen why bother to include them in the ‘fake ‘ apollo photos?
December 21, 2013 @ 12:23 pm
Why don’t the Chinese just take footage of the remains of the first lunar landing and all the stuff left behind (allegedly) so we can compare it. Its not bloody possible, that’s why!
December 21, 2013 @ 1:42 pm
actually the 50 by 50 would be 4 times less than the 100 by 100 lol even worse…
December 21, 2013 @ 2:07 pm
Hasselblad engineer Dickie…makes some of the worlds most expensive and high quality cameras. So good they wanted them for the moon missions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQj-Mh__fRc
There are many more on there too. Hey Dickie..one more thing ! You know we land most of our probes via parachute when there is some atmosphere etc, yeah ! right ! Well when they went to land these supposed space ships on the moon. They were giving constant altitude updates as they approached the surface.. Yeah, right ! Well you know when you fly a plane here on earth, the plane knows what height or flight level it as at above the surface due to pressure. Which in the International standard atmosphere is 1013.25 hPa What did they use as a gauge for this manned craft operating where there is no atmosphere ? To have a constant read out of height above the surface ? Was it
radar based, or laser again ? Read up and get back to me !
December 21, 2013 @ 2:20 pm
You should also look up what a Quark is and no it’s not a fucking duck was a sore throat , POA .
December 21, 2013 @ 3:08 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dejJmkYrynE
isnt the internet marvellous!
December 21, 2013 @ 3:31 pm
See if you can find any about 7/7 clueless twat , here’s a clue there’s a BBC one that try to debunk 7/7 Ripple Effect and fails totally , ffs Dick head get a decent credible source , if you can find this total useless obscure crap HOW come you can’t find the genuine stuff , btw lol i have software that can tell any pic’s details , down to the make/model/time the original pic was taken / location lol , POA .
December 21, 2013 @ 3:59 pm
eh? so if i sent you a photograph you could tell me when and where it was taken? i;ve got hundreds of photos here,shall we put it to the test? i don;t believe it but if you did it , i;d be forced to..
December 21, 2013 @ 4:23 pm
Lmfao , ask anyone on here I check the pic’s that Chris posts , the one’s the MSM use and if Rile was on he would tell you how it can be done , listen Sherlock just go look up metadata and this lol http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/it-security/john-mcafee-tripped-up-by-the-smartphone/8766/ and this ass clown http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregsatell/2013/08/03/4-things-you-should-know-about-metadata-hackers-and-privacy-that-edward-snowden-would-never-tell-you/ also i would tell you how but hey go find some obscure site that has pic’s on lol , POA .
December 21, 2013 @ 7:14 pm
Arm’s totally right Rich. See:
Geotagging:
The Exif format has standard tags for location information. As of 2012 a few cameras and a growing number of mobile phones have a built-in GPS receiver that stores the location information in the Exif header when a picture is taken. Some other cameras have a separate GPS receiver that fits into the flash connector or hot shoe. Recorded GPS data can also be added to any digital photograph on a computer, either by correlating the time stamps of the photographs with a GPS record from a hand-held GPS receiver or manually by using a map or mapping software. The process of adding geographic information to a photograph is known as geotagging. Photo-sharing communities like Panoramio, locr or Flickr equally allow their users to upload geocoded pictures or to add geolocation information online.
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December 21, 2013 @ 8:25 pm
Richard1 said: ” yep youre right i can;t prove it didnt happen, its tricky proving a negative. i can’t personally prove it did happen but i;m sure cleverer people than me ( and there are a few ) could. but probably they dont feel a need to.. ”
Maybe most “cleverer people than you” don’t believe the official story either. Hey maybe some of them visit this site? Well that’s a thought! 😉
December 21, 2013 @ 4:01 pm
Yes it is ! Look at this floating man ! hahahahahahahahahahahah you cock !¬
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxH0EUbmV_o
December 21, 2013 @ 3:55 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjEItn1sSQg
omg no. this is tooooooooooo funny. that hassleblad bloke david percy, he actually believes that apollo astronauts has wires attached to them ! any credibility he had just went.multi multi million dollar hoax all let down by a few wires. careless !
December 21, 2013 @ 5:19 pm
No, the engineer was an optics specialist from Hasselblad, not David Percy..The guy who designed the fucking cameras cannot understand how they got such images with them.
December 21, 2013 @ 4:14 pm
Simple fact of the matter is, you and millions like you cannot get your own heads around the fact, that everything you point to can be created elsewhere. Namely, here on Earth.
There is no denying it, and yet you try to tell people something has been done, when you have not actually seen it happen for yourself in real in time. So at the end of the day, once again, people who don’t believe it, are at worst skeptical, whereas you lot are possibly and very probably, silly gullible twats ! That’s the same for every fucking discussion going lol.
You can’t call people stupid for not believing government and big business on any matter really. Come to think of it, why the fuck would you ? The only reasons you would seek to do it, are being in their pay or fear of not wanting to appear conned yourself, so you side with the evil ones lol…With no genuine evidence ! Haha so it is you who is fearful and your kind of being called silly, so you side with baddies. Lmao…haha
Did you lead the Khmer rouge ? Oh no, sorry….His name was Pol Pot…not Toss Pot !
December 21, 2013 @ 4:49 pm
yep youre right i can;t prove it didnt happen, its tricky proving a negative. i can’t personally prove it did happen but i;m sure cleverer people than me ( and there are a few ) could. but probably they dont feel a need to..
December 21, 2013 @ 5:02 pm
So why would they feel the need to go in the first place if they don’t have the ability to prove it to everyone without ambiguity ?
December 21, 2013 @ 5:35 pm
Actually, on second thoughts, that was the supposed whole point of the fucking mission ! To prove to the world how great they were ! haha. Which they have failed to do. Now they refuse to prove that they went at all. Spending years and billions creating the hoax. That could simply be dismissed for everyone on Earth to see with one little probe of their own, right to where they have already supposed to have been. Better still, send someone else there. Imagine the footage we would get now ! it would be worth going just for that alone ! HD panoramic views, and looking back at ourselves like we never could have imagined from the surface of our nearest planetary neighbour. Amazing.
December 21, 2013 @ 5:47 pm
Firstly, if you really want to know what Russia thought of manned lunar exploration, just ask Jodrell Bank’s Sir Bernard Lovell. In May of 1963, the President of the Soviet Academy of Sciences Mstislav Keldysh instructed him to inform NASA’s deputy administrator Hugh Dryden that Russian had to postpone manned moon flights indefinitely, because they could see no way to protect their cosmonauts from the insurmountable dangers posed by solar flare radiation . Well into 1966, around the time Russia put Lunik 10 in lunar orbit, Sir Bernard remained in contact with the Soviets asking when they intended to send a human to the moon.
In 1999, Sir Bernard was quoted by the BBC along these lines: “I had frequently asked my Soviet contacts when they intended to send a human being to the moon and their response was always ‘when we can be absolutely certain of getting him back alive’. And they did not believe the Americans would do this and in fact it’s pretty clear that the Americans did take considerable risk.” POA .
December 21, 2013 @ 4:48 pm
Hey Dickie, I wonder why every telecommunications satellite is pushed out to 36,000 km in the Clarke belt 22,000 miles up ! Oh yeah…It is so that the speed of light radio waves can hit them ! And be bounced back with a certain degree of accurate coverage. It is called geostationary orbit. As in, they sit relatively still compared to the surface of the Earth. Means the waves won’t miss. Too difficult to do otherwise, you know, wandering about as they would be with movement.
Which leads me into live broadcast news reports. I am sure you have seen them, whereby one newscaster in the studio usually unintentionally interrupts the distant reporter, due to latency of the signal. In total that signal is doing 72.000 km.
Luckily it never affected the smooth continuous conversations between the moon men and mission control ! Despite the 10 times greater distance to be covered. Hmm !
Things worked so much better with limited technology, don’t you think ? That last bit could be rhetorical ! Haha, as in statement of fact.
December 21, 2013 @ 4:57 pm
Seeing that all 3 onboard computers on the Apollo craft had less capability than a modern mobile phone makes you wonder don’t it and no Dickie just because you watch The Clangers doesn’t mean they went to the moon too , whistles lol , POA .
December 21, 2013 @ 5:04 pm
Clangers lmao…Only clangers he is aware of, are all the ones he has dropped !
December 21, 2013 @ 5:05 pm
ha ha
December 21, 2013 @ 5:11 pm
thats an interesting point. i was actually watching the apollo moon landing live and i cant for the life of me remember if there a was a delay or not but perhaps any recordings we listen to now have had the delays edited out for easier listening?
December 21, 2013 @ 5:23 pm
What the fuck you think it is ? “Our Tune ” Yeah i wonder where the originals are…with the am signal and the beeep ! Pretty hard to edit live events as they happen.
December 21, 2013 @ 5:24 pm
Radio waves travel at the speed of light. Any live communication with the earth, between Apollo 11 and Houston, would have to have the precise Earth-Moon delay in the conversations. No problem, I thought. Just listen, measure, and compare.“Columbia, Columbia, this is Houston, AOS, over.”
[1.07 second pause]
“Houston, Columbia…”
The pause ought to be 2.51 seconds – minimum. That’s 1.258 seconds for the message to go out, and 1.258 for it to come back, if the astronaut replied instantly. If both Houston (H) and Columbia (C) spoke instantly, and both continually spoke without interrupting each other, you would see a pattern, if recorded on earth, like this:
CH—CH—CH—
A pause of 1.07 seconds would be a distance between Earth and Columbia of 159,965 kilometers, or 42% of the journey to the moon. Had Columbia begun her reply in order for the message to arrive at the time recorded in this record, she would have had to start speaking when Houston was saying “Columbia, Columbia.” But etiquette and standard practice is to wait until the “over”. When you listen to the record, it sounds like a natural conversation, with everybody saying “over” at the end, to punctuate the communication, wait for the other party to speak. But the pattern continues.
“I guess you’re about the only person around that doesn’t have TV coverage of the scene.”
[1.07 second pause]
“That’s alright, I don’t mind a bit.”
In order for “That’s alright” to arrive on earth 2.5 seconds after transmission, Columbia would have had to utter it when Houston was speaking the word “doesn’t.” It would have been like this at the Columbia end:
“I guess you’re about the only person around that doe-That’s alright I don’t mind a bit.”
Talk about completing each others’ sentences!
POA .
December 21, 2013 @ 6:01 pm
Although they did develop a technique which was used in the 80’s to prevent swearing on radio phone in shows (I know, ask Alan Beswick and James Whale, I think they introduced that because of me and a few others.) Nothing like phoning them up and calling them a cunt live on air lol.. hey, when i was a lad !
I don’t think they had it in 69 and they would not have had any actual reason to do so anyway.
December 21, 2013 @ 6:03 pm
This is fast becoming longer than the fucking Archers radio show , lmao , POA .
December 21, 2013 @ 5:18 pm
as for proving it without ambiguity, i can;t see that happening. CT ers will always cry fake. if actually bringing bits of the moon back doesnt do the job, what will.. i know whats coming now ! lol
December 21, 2013 @ 7:30 pm
” as for proving it without ambiguity, i can;t see that happening. CT ers will always cry fake. if actually bringing bits of the moon back doesnt do the job, what will.. i know whats coming now ! lol ”
Errrr……Why are you here Rich?
December 21, 2013 @ 4:58 pm
i see what you did there pol pot — toss pot, nice play on words. i personally havent called anyone stupid, i try not to be abusive. on the ‘ woolwich hoax ‘ if it can be proved that the 2 michaels are not in any prison i will believe its a hoax, no questions asked. of course once they are actually in prison this will be explained away by saying that they were ‘brainwashed ‘.
December 21, 2013 @ 5:14 pm
Calm down Dickie !!! I was only jesting ! Don’t be getting over sensitive now. Emotional blackmail is not fair. You will be leaving me with feelings of guilt and lack of moral compass ! !
December 21, 2013 @ 6:26 pm
ok ok i;m calm. been trapped indoors all day , its feckin horrible down here in glorious sussex. i could have early signs of cabin fever.
December 21, 2013 @ 5:23 pm
at wolfie. sorry did you just mean photographs taken on smart phone cameras?. if so maybe that might be possible i agree.
December 21, 2013 @ 5:30 pm
Any picture you muppet , no matter what its taken on , look up exif lol , dam it F-T-S after all this education Dickie will be able to change TV stations without a remote , soup anyone , POA.
December 21, 2013 @ 6:16 pm
yeh i;m feeling a bit muppetish concerning this. i have here a 35 mm photograph i took 40 years ago somewhere on this earth. so if i gave it you ,you will be able to tell me that yes it was taken 40 years ago and exactly where? even if its just a picture of a brick wall?
December 21, 2013 @ 6:23 pm
Desert Island Dicks.
December 21, 2013 @ 7:08 pm
cosmoquest.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-637.html
December 21, 2013 @ 8:28 pm
http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a17/A17A1172449.mp3
heres just one example of the lengths you think NASA has gone to perpetrate this so called hoax. its in both written and audio form. there are literally thousands of other examples. do you really really think they would have gone into such microscopic detail it must have taken years !. according to this CT they have done virtually everything but actually go there !
December 21, 2013 @ 9:24 pm
If i am not mistaken Dickie, i could have sworn i heard some full duplex conversation going on there. You know, like when you are on the phone ! I always thought they used half duplex. You know, one talks, then waits while the other does, as you do with most voice activated radios. I heard 2 voices at once i’m sure, and that was in the first 50 seconds as that was all i listened to, as it proves once again FUCK ALL ! No matter what you, or they with all of their billions and technology throw up, you can’t actually prove it can you ! Futile !!!
But it could be proven..Just not by them or you ! How do you prove it ? Go there !
December 21, 2013 @ 10:54 pm
well on one thing we can agree. youre right it is futile.
December 21, 2013 @ 11:31 pm
Yeah, but only your assertion that they have had men on the lunar surface. It is not futile to disbelieve it without cold hard, in your face proof ! Modern day !!!!! Not from when people had no idea what the fuck was going on, and did not have access to the technology to point all the discrepancies out !
December 21, 2013 @ 11:54 pm
It was 1972 that they last claimed to have had a manned flight to the moon. Eugene Cernan is supposedly the last to walk on the moon. Why did it happen for such a short period of time and why no manned flights since? The tech improvements since then would surely be huge.
December 22, 2013 @ 12:06 am
David Percy is an award winning television and film producer, a professional photographer and also a member of the Royal Photographic Society. He is co-author, along with Mary Bennett, of the fascinating book ‘Dark Moon: Apollo and the Whistle-Blowers’ (ISBN 1-898541-10-8). The majority of the film footage on this page is taken from the film ‘What Happened on the Moon?’, a film that also features Percy and Bennett and one which I strongly recommend if you have an interest in the Apollo missions (details of how to purchase the video are at the bottom of this article). Percy firmly believes that the Apollo footage was either faked or not the original film that was shot on the Moon. He believes that many anomalous features that would alert the eagle eyed viewer, could have been placed in the films by whistle blowers who were deeply dissatisfied to be a part of the cover-up. He has studied the entire transfer of the original film on video tape, a feat that not many people have done. What many people did not realize at the time was that a lot of the footage was actually pre-recorded and not live at all.
http://ccs.infospace.com/ClickHandler.ashx?du=www.ufos-aliens.co.uk%2fcosmicapollo.html&ru=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ufos-aliens.co.uk%2fcosmicapollo.html&ld=20131222&ap=10&app=1&c=snapdov3a.9&s=snapdov3a&coi=771&cop=main-title&euip=86.156.186.210&npp=10&p=0&pp=0&pvaid=0c0f76aededc48169a88e66e233e4aaf&ep=10&mid=9&en=yZ%2bM9KjE30lutiCUmL%2f8UHxwEfkWUVzINxg291f%2btQ8QizYR7iaIpw%3d%3d&hash=F004FDDFBF9AB29A19D2C80EA068FA68
December 22, 2013 @ 12:35 am
Dickie is busy watching this as proof man went to the moon , well one man and his dog http://vimeo.com/38091345 , POA .
December 21, 2013 @ 11:17 pm
about 50 posts ago i posted a photograph of the landing gear left behind by apollo 17 and the tracks left behind by the LEV. similar photographs exist of all the apollo landing sites. of course these were immediately dismissed as fakes. so thats the problem, no matter what anyone says or produces its all dismissed as fake, i was waiting for the moon rocks to be dismissed as fake but strangely it wasnt although of course you all think they are. so yes youre right it is futile.. carry on.
December 21, 2013 @ 11:21 pm
No you carry on , no fucker else is interested in a troll , you keep posting , I will just ignore your stupidity btw have you ever held a moon rock ? and i don’t mean the sort you get at Blackpool with Moon written through it , POA .
December 21, 2013 @ 11:50 pm
Only moon rocks he knows, are the ones that go splash in the U bend of the bog lmfao !
December 21, 2013 @ 11:48 pm
I heard the moon rocks had a similar composition to some from the Greenland Isua peninsular that are part of the ancient North American Craton. Or was it the Barberton Greenbelt ? Either way, they are meant to have given some to a high profile Russian, and after extensive geological analysis, they could not determine they were not of terrestrial origin at all ! Which is Gneiss ! Hahaha do you get it which is Gneiss ! lol. Geography joke there Dickie. hahaha fucking hell I’m funny.
December 22, 2013 @ 12:50 am
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/news/apollo-sites.html#.UrY2mfRdXjO
one last futile posting.. cheers chaps.
December 22, 2013 @ 1:13 am
No Richard hold it there! For you have yet to see this. This seals it pal 100% fakery. Watch this video from 32:05 That’s supposed to be the Earth from orbiter but it’s not. It’s the porthole/window. They’ve got the lights turned off in the cabin and using the porthole as a supposed planet Earth, but they are in actual fact in orbit around Earth. that is just a small portion of earths surface showing through the round window. Then at the end of the clip someone turns the light on inside the cabin and voila you can now see that they were faking deep space from inside the cabin of the orbiter. LMAO mate!
December 22, 2013 @ 1:15 am
Sorry here’s the video. Watch this it’s proof!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xciCJfbTvE4
December 23, 2013 @ 12:10 am
http://www.clavius.org/bibsibrel.html
December 23, 2013 @ 12:50 am
the part relevant to the video you posted is almost at the bottom of the article but make you sure you read it all as it debunks virtually everything the criminal sibrel has to say . sibrel who was/ is a video cameraman was arrested for breaking into neil armstrongs house. re : the previous link i sent, that chap from the Goddard Space Lab. ? lying through his teeth was he? i think that makes him approx. number 17,356, the 17,356th person who would have had to be involved in this most convoluted hoax of all time. thats even more than the Boston Marathon hoax !
over and definately out.
December 23, 2013 @ 6:10 pm
richard1 said:
” What Mr. Sibrel supplies is footage of the astronauts practicing for an upcoming telecast. Because television was added at the last minute, they hadn’t had time to practice much with the equipment. So they were experimenting with different camera positions and exposure settings. Someone on the ground recorded it. ”
Please show me a link to where somebody officially states that the footage inside the cabin was “just them practicing” Do you have that?
December 23, 2013 @ 6:29 pm
Also this from that Clavius site:
” Mr. Sibrel is speaking of the infamous C-rock photo (Fig. 2). He has absolutely no evidence that the photo has been recently retouched. That’s simply his interpretation of the fact that two different versions of the photo exist: with and without the mark.
The peculiar C-shaped mark on the rock has been conclusively traced to its source: a fiber contaminant on a particular print of this photo. The original transparency does not contain the mark. The masters do not contain the mark. The prints (save one) do not contain the mark. The mark exists on one print, and one print only. ”
Again are we just supposed to take Clavius’ word for it Rich? Where are the other prints and the negative without the eyebrow hair stuck to them? Even if they are available so what? I can take that well know version of the image and Photoshop out the hair contaminate in seconds myself. What does that prove? Let’s see the original transparency!
December 23, 2013 @ 11:01 pm
well you can apply that to anyone who puts any argument forward. but i would prefer to believe the word of a trained engineer who has worked in the aerospace industry than someone who appears to have a grudge. ( i;m assuming the story of sibrel breaking into armstrongs house is true but to be honest i dont know. ) the level of detail on the Clavius site is just too overwhelming to be dismissed easily and you have to ask yourself why he does it? whats in it
for him?
http://www.clavius.org/about.html
December 23, 2013 @ 8:52 am
Fucking hell Dickie…I knew it would be worth checking up back here, to see what you sneaked in lol…Anyway…there is someone who wants to meet you. It’s with a view to a long term and meaningful relationship ! To do interesting things, friendship, companionship, and possibly red tube reducing activities. Then again ?
I think if you go forwards a few stories you will see some of her comments. She goes by the name of Wotapackoflies. And to be honest mate, she sounds well up for it ! Either message her through the main articles. Or get arm to give you her e.mail !
Don’t say i never give you anything good.
Hahaha.
December 23, 2013 @ 12:00 pm
thats quite bizarre FTS..not quite sure i really understand it. cant say ive noticed that name. just to clear up what i said about redtube, actually i;ve not watched it or any porn for years. i really do find it tedious. i was being that word that begins with F that i can;t spell,
December 23, 2013 @ 1:52 pm
Oh yeah, i see mate…i know the word you are on about !!!! No problem..it’s FACTUAL.
December 23, 2013 @ 4:45 pm
hey FTS ! ITS CHRISTMAS !. for a bit of light relief check this out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKbRoOSje5c
December 23, 2013 @ 6:04 pm
Yes, that was very good Dickie…Most impressive, even though i must admit, it was a 60/40 split between the illusion and the woman’s legs !
Now for the big question…..You ready ? ………..Did you believe it ?
December 23, 2013 @ 6:26 pm
i could tell you how it was done if you want.
December 23, 2013 @ 6:45 pm
Well i would imagine it was 2 different men. One inside the legs section, and the other a half man amputee. I have watched a lot of the, masked magician. His assistants are awesome !
But feel free to enlighten me Dickie..! I think it’s time you said something that cannot be dismissed so go ahead mate. Knock yourself out !
December 23, 2013 @ 5:41 pm
http://www.clavius.org/envflutter.html
sorry i;m probably going on a bit too much now but i;ve just noticed again the photograph at the top of chris’s article, i know he;s a busy man but i wonder if he read this link it possibly might in some small way maybe perhaps cause him to consider he might just be wrong? and i say that knowing i am opening myself up to one of his withering retorts. on the other hand he might not give a toss wtf i think. yeh thats more likely.
December 23, 2013 @ 6:07 pm
Nobody gives a toss only you do Dickie when your watching redtube , got your tissue’s handy lol , POA .
December 23, 2013 @ 6:47 pm
Everyone has there right to an opinion even an idiot like you Dick , you may think you fool us but to quote Groucho Marx , ” he may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don’t let that fool you. He really is an idiot.” , lmfao , next idiot , no charge .
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December 23, 2013 @ 6:18 pm
richard1 ‘He might not give a toss……’
Spot on richard1. He won’t give a toss.
December 23, 2013 @ 6:48 pm
Merry Xmas Lorraine can you fill my xmas stocking lol or do we need a pear , lol , no charge .
(pear old joke but it will ripen )
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December 23, 2013 @ 6:50 pm
cool.
December 23, 2013 @ 6:22 pm
http://www.clavius.org/scale.html
i actually dont care if you give a toss or not wolfie. but i would like to get you to see sense. read the above article . to quote ‘ at one point 500,000 people were working on the apollo project and yet NO ONE has come forward to say it was all a hoax. that simply is unbelievable and there is only one explanation for it. there was no hoax. unless you have a better explanation?
December 23, 2013 @ 6:37 pm
Yeah..all these people Dickie..they are hypothesizing about what happened in a supportive manner for an affirmative landing. The reality is, we do not actually know how the physical low gravity would affect men..This is because you can only achieve this on Earth by dropping towards the ground in an object such as a plane, or fairground ride, or in water. The only other thing we have experienced is zero gravity. As in low Earth orbit.
I have a problem with this floaty drift away world you see. Yes, maybe the moons gravity is only 1/6 of our own…but i have seen people say it could actually be as high as 3/5, so 60 %.
You see Dickie, if a big rock on earth weighs 3000 tons and you got it on the moon. It is still 500 fucking tons. It’s not going to be something you could move out the way is it !
I think the low gravity, would in fact be relative to the object you are on. I don’t see the Chinese lunar rover floating about like the moon buggies. And i don’t see the mars rover, any less secure to the surface than anything here on Earth. Why the slow motion ? ? ?
I think it is because they created what they thought the conditions would be like while they were here.
If we had less gravity here for a while, we would be faster, stronger and less restricted, especially if you could remove the constraints of an atmosphere. It would not mean you were going to fucking well float off.
December 23, 2013 @ 7:02 pm
if you worked out that illusion without you tubing it i;m well impressed.
December 23, 2013 @ 8:23 pm
I don’t know Dickie..have i got it right ? whaaaaay !
December 23, 2013 @ 6:47 pm
tell you what everybody. the man behind clavius. org is called Jay Windley. why dont you email him and tell him why the moon landings were a hoax. his email address is
webmaster@clavius.org. i’m sure he could answer your questions much than i could.
December 23, 2013 @ 6:55 pm
Richard…That looked suspiciously like self promotion to me ! Is there something you are not telling us ? Sure he is not called Humerus ?
December 23, 2013 @ 7:04 pm
sorry that went right over my head
December 23, 2013 @ 7:13 pm
See i knew you was an idiom , POA .
December 23, 2013 @ 7:29 pm
http://www.clavius.org/envrad.html
http://www.clavius.org/envsun.html
December 23, 2013 @ 7:32 pm
http://www.clavius.org/envsun.html
http://www.clavius.org/envrad.html
December 23, 2013 @ 8:16 pm
ooops sorry about that. not sure what happened.
http://www.clavius.org/gravleap.html
December 23, 2013 @ 8:32 pm
http://www.clavius.org/mythbusters.html
( btw dogman i do appreciate you putting these up even if you dont agree with them , thanks )
December 23, 2013 @ 8:42 pm
Lol i’m not dogman but thx anyway , POA .
December 23, 2013 @ 11:04 pm
well thanks wolfie then.. but i;m starting to bore myself now so i really will stop . cheeers
December 23, 2013 @ 11:56 pm
You bored us days ago , lmfao , you can’t see the wood for the trees your that dense , your surname thicket by any chance ? POA .
December 23, 2013 @ 8:33 pm
Dickie…Even our real astronauts are only in zero gravity due to constant speed. It is not natural, free of acceleration zero gravity. The likes of the Space shuttle and the I.S.S are in perpetual free fall motion around the Earth, that is how they obtain the zero gravity. It is not isolation induced zero gravity. They are going so fast, at altitude so as they are literally, constantly falling off the edge of the circumference of the planet. So to me, even this scenario is not the same as outer space zero gravity.
December 24, 2013 @ 4:54 pm
http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=192.0
oh feck it i;m terrible. this really really my last post on this topic. go on to the above site. they actively encourage moon landing CTs BUT if you can’t back up your arguments with sound facts you get booted off. try it. see how long you last. roger and out.
December 24, 2013 @ 8:22 pm
Looks like i got post 200 Dickie…You certainly kept it going though. Yeah, i may have a look at that. Not that it will change my mind.
I’ve been working on the 1 1/4 light seconds distance bit. It is back in time. For every moment we look at the moon, it is not where it appears. It is that 20 odd miles in front of where we are looking ! Just like the 7 sisters or, (Pleiades) are not where they appear now in the night sky, but 400 – 500 years travel in front of where we see them. In fact, the only objects this would not happen to is the Sun and the centre of the galaxy.
I don’t care what any fucker says ! When we look back at the universe,( Hubble deep field) most of it is not even there either. The light we see is from so long ago, that most of those stars have been and gone ! If this has happened for billions of years. The big bang may not have even occurred when they say. If it did actually occur. Perhaps this is why there is so much more mass and energy in the universe than what they can see or measure.
I think it could simply be beyond measurement due to distance, and hence time. The distance beyond what we would class of the instant of the big bang, could actually be another whole unmeasurable depth of the actual universe. We can’t grasp what it was, or when it was, so the best guess for now is big bang.
In my opinion Dickie, it is probably spontaneously regenerating itself. The scientists just do not know where from or how. They over estimate their knowledge. As such, that is why things are always said to be on the cutting edge of science. As the vast majority of the time it is actually wrong, except they take ownership of the development of knowledge, so it seems like it is they themselves who are always pushing the boundaries. The reality is, they just don’t admit they were wrong until it is no longer feasible to keep the same ideas.
Propose all the arguments you want along with them. I will simply believe it when i see it, in a manner that can no longer be disputed.
December 25, 2013 @ 8:25 pm
first of all i am not reneging on my last post. not gonna mention the moon landings!. second of if i type gibberish, i;ve had a few drinks and i;m not good with drink.. very interesting post FTS. the origins of the universe is a fascinating subject and something ive been intersted in since as long as i can rememeber. i dont profess to have any answers but then i dont think anyone else has. the ‘big bang’ theory cant be right can it?let me get this right, at one point there was nothing then a microsecond later there was a microscopic pinpoint which then started expanding and iss till expanding to this very day?. i realise the fact that i cant get head round it doesnt mean it has to be wrong but ffs why couldnt it just carry on being nothing? why did there suddenly have to be something? everything is just a theory, the boffins may say they they are close to solving the mysteries of the universe but personally i dont think they are. apparently 1 theory is that the universe will at a certain point stop expanding and then collapse back in on itself. back to a single point. but how can everything in the universe be included in a single point?
youre right about science. whats right this decade becomes total nonsense the next decade. the only definate science is mathematics. yes your right about looking back in time. we see the moon as it was 1.5 seconds ago , the sun as it was 8 minutes ago and as you say some distant objects we look at probably no longer exist. i mentioned this a few months ago but the most distant object we have discovered is 10,000 million light years away. i know you know what that means but i like spelling it out. the light from that object set of 10.000 million years ago ( before the earth even existed ) and it has taken that long to get here even though it was travelling at 186,000 miles per second. ffs you can;t help feeling insigificant in the face of such numbers. btw if the universe is expanding whats it expanding into? sorry should probably have left it at a nice round 200 lol
December 25, 2013 @ 8:34 pm
” i dont profess to have any answers” , nothing new then there Dickie dipshit , lets hope the new year will bring you enlightenment somehow i doubt it , a 50,000 watt bulb wouldn’t lighten your brain up , I even doubt sticking your fingers in a live socket while stood in a bucket of water will be beneficial but hey miracles do happen , lmao , POA .
December 25, 2013 @ 11:28 pm
wolfie mate is it absolutely necessary to be so unpleasant, ? it doesnt actually bother me but it reflects rather badly on you. happy new year to you !
December 26, 2013 @ 12:04 am
Cobblers , POA .
December 25, 2013 @ 10:17 pm
Hi. Arrm. Yes I will gladly fill. Yrour. Xmas stocking. No need for a pear. Love from your favourite blonde lol. Xxx
December 25, 2013 @ 10:28 pm
Lol email him , he has an Ann Summers account I believe he might treat you , lol , POA.
PS:- you spelt your name wrong lorraine lol .
December 25, 2013 @ 11:01 pm
So I did. Over indulgence of vodka today. And a womblette never needs to go to anne summers. We are. Sexy enough lol. Xxx
December 25, 2013 @ 11:21 pm
and you spelt your name wrong again lmao , you can still email arm lol , POA.
December 25, 2013 @ 11:40 pm
Wolf. I will say goopdnigjt. My head. Is spinning lol.
December 26, 2013 @ 12:13 am
Fuck me is she pissed too lmao…hi lorraone. You’re a lorra lorra laughs.
Yeah Dickie, it’s all very interesting stuff. I will answer this again when i am not so tired.
The universe can’t be expanding into nothing, it will have to self create what it is expanding into as it expands.
The only way we can appreciate things, is because we have senses. Mainly vision, that allows us to see, and try to work out how things develop.
Over many generations we build upon that knowledge and it gets passed down. This enables the next generation to understand more easily, and to be able to develop things further. You are right, in that we are totally insignificant. Take away all our senses, and everything is still there. As such, it is not for our benefit; we are in fact merely a byproduct that is allowed to be here at this time due to the very favourable conditions here on Earth.
That is why it is pointless fearing death, even though it is coming to us all. We are only aware of what we know through being awake, or as some would say conscious. We knew nothing before we were here and we will once again know nothing when we are gone. It will all still be there though, doing what it does. The time is only applicable to us, because ours, in this situation is very very limited, and we are aware of that limit.
The scientists make me laugh, as they feel we are the be all and end all. This is utter bollocks, and cannot be proven at all. We discuss things such as what they are doing at CERN like we are going to be some extra special key makers, with untold insight into the universe. Well, that’s not going to happen at all either. Hawking and Dirac, and the others are like chips on a circuit board, trying to understand the computer they are in, and all of the world the computer is in, then the solar system and then the galaxy. Ain’t gonna happen, not in a billion cycles of early man to modern civilization.
There are many other theories too. The likes of possible multiverses expanding into each other or mixing and disintegrating. Some may be more feasible than others, and are certainly worthy of further study.
Anyway, you take it easy on that drink Dickie. I would not want it impairing your judgement !!
December 26, 2013 @ 1:14 am
Oh yeah, i have another worry about what you were saying regarding the big crunch Dickie.
You know like they feel the universe is expanding outwards from a point. And that it may collapse in on itself. They use the likes of Hubble’s red shift to hypothesize this scenario. I have a big worry about this, as they state the objects further away from us are actually travelling faster the further away they get.
Ok, here is my big worry. What happens if the universe as we know it, is actually under collapse now ? What happens if we are actually being compressed in space time, and feel that the things further away from us are moving away from us at great speed because we are actually being drawn towards a singular point right now ? There may be no blue shift, because all matter and space itself closer to the, what would be a massive density object could compress everything relative to all other objects at the same distance from it ! That i am sure would also serve to have the effect of making the things that are further away, appear to be receding at a far greater velocity than what we would have imagined. But, the reality would be that it would be us, and everything near us, a that is actually moving at the great speed. I feel this kind of situation is unlikely, but i sometimes wonder about it nonetheless !
December 26, 2013 @ 1:36 am
Whats outside the known universe , just a big bang into what , you think there’s nothing outside our universe and if its expanding , whats it expanding into , anyway as The Clangers are back soon maybe they will have the answers , are far as i am concerned you can whistle for it , POA .
December 26, 2013 @ 2:01 am
Who knows ? And besides, i preferred the magic roundabout !
December 26, 2013 @ 2:10 am
Nice Pollux said Florence as she stroked him lmao , POA .
December 26, 2013 @ 9:02 am
I don’t know….i never looked ! Where they sparkling ?
December 26, 2013 @ 2:52 pm
If any of you are still infected with the belief that any Apollo Mission went to the moon please read any 2 of the 5 books below and you will be cured:
Dark Moon Bennett/Percy
One Small Step Wisnewski
Moongate William L. Brian
NASA Mooned America Rene
We Never Went To the Moon Bill Kaysing
If you read all five you will be an authority on the Apollo Mission hoax.
Now that the announcement by CERN has blown Einsteins theories of relativity to heck, that means Newtons Second law goes with it down the drain.
That means all current densities of moons and planets are erroneous.
That means that all we have left for the computation of the moons gravity is Bullialdus Law of Inverse Square.
Using standard distances and a neutral point of 43,495 miles (from Werner von Braun) and using the sun for a third body equation, the gravity of the moon works out to be 70% of earths.
That means that no lunar lander undocked, de-orbited, landed, took off, reattained 60 miles orbit and docked with 22,000 pounds of fuel which is the amount they had.
Mathematical equations trump third party speculation.
No Apollo. No how.
Quoting: johnlear