Feb 18 2015
A life of Charlie
Christopher Spivey
I have killed no one and I have ordered no one to be killed. I may have implied on several occasions to several different people that I may have been Jesus Christ, but I haven’t decided yet what I am or who I am. I was given a name and a number and I was put in a cell, and I have lived in a cell with a name and a number. I don’t know who I am. Charles Manson to the court November 19th 1970
You may have read my short article on Charles Manson which I released on the 11th of this month.
Now the main reason that I wrote the article was because I couldn’t help but notice how young and well groomed Charlie is looking. Indeed he looks like he has had a hair transplant – something not readily available in prison as far as I know.
Nevertheless, I padded the piece out with one or two other bits about Manson and it is those bits that I now feel need a bit of clarification… Especially since the Chimp have jumped in today (17/2/15) with an article about the strange, octogenarian – who I personally think oozes evil – and his 27 year old ‘fiance’ Afton Burton, who now calls herself Star.
The Chimp article is in fact a follow up to many articles that appeared last week alleging that Manson had called time on his & Star’s relationship, after he found out that Star only wanted to marry him so as that she could claim ownership of his body, which she was allegedly going to put on display when he died.
The following is taken from the new Chimp article:
Charles Manson’s fiancee has spoken out for the first time about her engagement to tell the world: ‘I think he’s the most handsome man in the world.’
Afton Elaine Burton, who goes by the mononym ‘Star’, tells Inside Edition on Monday that she still plans to marry the 80-year-old convicted murderer despite the fact that their marriage license expired earlier this month.
She insists Manson did not brutally murder Sharon Tate and six others and adds that she wants to ‘take very good care of him’.
Her words come amid claims she tricked her murderous beau into an engagement so that she could put his corpse on display after his death.
Side-stepping the allegation, Burton reminds the interviewer that she moved to California nine years ago to care for Manson, who is not eligible for parole until 2027 – when he will be 92.
‘Yes, I’m going to marry Charles Manson,’ Burton declares.
The Chimp then goes on to quote the New York Post as proof that the marriage is off:
According to the New York Post, Burton tried to get the rights to Manson’s remains without marrying him, but was turned down.
The paper claimed that she offered herself up as a his bride after being rebuffed, because Californian law allows spouses to choose what happens to their husbands’ and wives’ bodies after they die.
The claims come from Daniel Simone, a journalist who has spoken extensively with Manson and is planning to write a book on him.
He claimed that Manson is now wise to the plot – and thinks it is ridiculous because he believes that he’s immortal.
Simone told the Post: ‘He’s finally realized that he’s been played for a fool.’
‘He feels he will never die… Therefore, he feels it’s a stupid idea to begin with.’
Simone also said that Manson never had any intention of marrying Star – but he kept up the pretense because they would bring presents to his prison cell in Corcoran, California.
The prospect of Star becoming Mrs Manson diminished this week after it emerged the couple’s 90-day marriage license had expired. Source
Now I have to say that for someone who is supposedly on Charlie’s side, Simone is not doing him any favours by saying that Manson believes himself to be immortal.
The Chimp also states that: “Manson applied for parole in 2012 but was denied release and is not eligible to apply again until 2027″.
However, it is my understanding that Manson no longer applies for parole and in fact refuses to attend the hearings.
Indeed, the reason given for Charlie having his parole turned down in 2012 was that according to parole panelist John Peck, Manson was reported to have said: “I’m special. I’m not like the average inmate,” Peck read. “I have spent my life in prison. I have put five people in the grave. I am a very dangerous man Source
And as you will know if you read my article Charlie Youngblood, I made a point of saying that as far as I am aware Charlie has always maintained that he never killed anyone… Something that Mason still maintains apparently after accusing Peck of talking Bullshit.
Moreover, Manson’s website has the facts surrounding the wedding:
Charlie and Star were not able to complete their wedding ceremony due to an unexpected interruption in logistics. The marriage license, filed on November 7th 2014, was active for 90 days. They plan on renewing the license, and things will move forward in the coming months.
In regards to the sensationalism and triviality expressed by the corporate media, we are reposting this 2013 statement by Charlie:
“Your perspectives are off-base. This marriage is far less important than Air Trees Water, and Animals. We’re running out of water. We’re constantly polluting the air that we breathe. We’re destroying the very thing our life is dependent upon (all life is one life).
The marriage of true minds – like Shakespeare said. We’re marrying in ATWA. The Air and the Water is our spirit, the Trees and the Animals are our flesh and blood.” – Charles Manson, November 24, 2013
Never the less, Charlies nuptials are unimportant in the grand scheme of things.
Indeed, it is the murders that he was convicted of that are what matters… I mean, he wasn’t present at all on the night that Sharon Tate and four others were murdered.
Now I have to say, from what little I have read on Manson’s website (found HERE) that the indications are that he was stitched up good and proper at his trial.
In fact, Manson – if the transcripts of the trial on his website are true – never had a chance of walking out of prison and indeed a major injustice has taken place.
According to Manson, he wasn’t allowed to defend himself, major evidence was withheld and crucial witnesses were not allowed to testify.
And I have to say that it all makes for fascinating reading.
For instance Manson says of those who jailed him:
Whoever you are, what you know is what you are. Righteous. What you know is what you are.
You know I didn’t break the law. You know you’re holding me hostage. You know I’m a political prisoner.
You’re all a bunch of liars. You’re all lying.You’re lying for your jobs and your positions. Trying to protect that phony thing you call ‘you’.
Charles Manson July 28, 2014
The 1st police report on the Tate murders certainly makes for really interesting reading.
And according to Charlie’s website, the lawyer assigned to defend him, Irving Kanarek, now 95 years old still maintains that Manson is innocent nearly 45 years after he was jailed… A claim that came straight from the horses mouth:
“I would defend a client who I knew was guilty of horrific crimes. They have to be proved guilty. I’ve had cases where people were guilty as hell but they couldn’t prove it. And if they can’t prove it, he’s not guilty. In that case, the person walks free. That’s American justice.
I got a reversal of Jimmy Lee’s death sentence, and he had been accused of killing a police officer. That made me the victim of police non-objectivity. They pulled me over, gave me tickets undeservedly.
It wasn’t a difficult decision to take the Manson case. My purpose was to fight legally admissible evidence, and the amount of that was scant. His guilt was based on a few hearsay words, inadmissible in court, that he supposedly told this guy to do a number on the Tate residence. No question he was legally innocent. And, more than that, he was actually innocent. There was no evidence connecting him to those murders.
The newspapers, the magazines, the motion pictures got people all excited – Manson as the embodiment of human evil. Charlie wasn’t a monster. When you look at the legally admissible evidence, you come to a very different conclusion. Just looking at him from objective considerations, he’s a personable person.”
“I’ve thought a lot about the case in terms of the legalities. I haven’t dwelt much on the human tragedy of it. There’s a lot of myth, for example that the baby was taken out of Tate’s body. Not so. The wounds were not in the abdomen. The wounds were primarily in the breast area.
I didn’t spend much time [thinking about Tate and the other victims], because they were victims of disputes that Charlie had nothing to do with. I think his direct involvement has been woefully extrapolated.
By the time I visited the house, the bodies were gone. The scene was what I’d call mechanical. Nothing about it was gruesome, per se. They’d marked where they were in chalk. So it isn’t as overwhelming as some people may feel. None of it stayed with me. The tools of the courtroom make such scenes less than human. I didn’t think about it emotionally. The victims are part of the case, but are not that tangible. I lost sleep on other cases, but not on this one.
People ask me, have I ever felt in the presence of evil, I don’t know how to respond to that. I don’t dream or even think much about Charlie.
I have regrets about every case where someone is killed or injured. Murder is unappetising. But I’ve never defended anyone who’s been accused of horrible criminal acts on children.”
– Irving Kanarek
There was also quite a few good comments left on my article Charlie Youngblood, which questioned whether the murders were staged, based on – amongst other things – the tacky, crap furniture in Roman Polanski’s Beverly Hills house and the unrealistic state of the bodies found there.
Polanski, a well protected prolific paedophile was an extremely rich man at the time of the murders – and no doubt still is – and as such, it is felt that the house on Cielo Drive was not furnished to a standard befitting a couple of Polanski’s and his actress wife Sharon Tate’s social standing…
… Almost like the crap furniture was brought in so as not to ruin their real stuff with fake blood and whatnot.
Certainly, there was a lot of Satanic shit taking place around that area, especially a few miles over in Laurel Canyon.
Film star stabbed in ‘ritualistic’ killings
Actress Sharon Tate has been found brutally murdered in her Los Angeles home, along with three high-society friends and a fifth, as yet un-named, victim.
All five died from shooting and multiple stab wounds.
Sharon Tate, 26, was the wife of film director Roman Polanski and was eight months pregnant.
In what police said appeared to be a “ritualistic” murder, she was found tied together with her former fiancé, hair stylist Jay Sebring.
Police said both had nylon nooses around their necks, and Mr Sebring’s head was covered with a black hood.
They said both probably died of stab wounds.
Horrific scene
The bodies of Abigail Folger, 25, a member of a wealthy coffee-manufacturing family, and her boyfriend Voyteck Frykowski, 32, were found sprawled on the lawn outside. Both had been shot.
The fifth victim, a man, was found slumped over the wheel of a car with multiple gunshot wounds.
Police described a horrific scene at the hilltop house in the wealthy Bel Air district of the city.
Some of the bodies had been mutilated, with blood smeared everywhere and the word “Pig” scrawled on the front door in blood. Police said the phone and electricity lines had been cut.
It’s believed that Miss Folger and Mr Frykowsky, as well as Mr Sebring, had come from San Francisco to spend the weekend at the house.
Isolated area
The bungalow-style property, in an isolated area between Beverly Hills and the San Fernando Valley, is owned by Terry Melcher, son of film star Doris Day.
It was being rented by Roman Polanski and Sharon Tate who had recently returned there to have her baby after working in London.
Mr Polanski was still in Europe directing his latest film, but left immediately for Los Angeles on hearing the news.
Immediately after the discovery of the bodies, police arrested a houseboy, William Garretson, 19, who was living in a guest house behind the house. After five hours of questioning, he was charged with five counts of murder.
Sharon Tate began her acting career in the television series, Beverly Hillbillies. She also had parts in the films Valley of the Dolls, the Americanisation of Emily, and The Sandpiper. Source
… It has also been pointed out that Manson was well connected, always had a lot of money and rumoured to be a victim of mind-control.
And, many of the knob-ed celebs that Manson was ‘hanging out’ with came from families whose fathers were working in Military Intelligence:
Xaviant Haze has put together an interesting article, building on the excellent research of Dave McGowan on the mysterious world of Laurel Canyon, that connected the early folk rock music scene to Satanism and military intelligence.
In particular, Haze makes mention of a strange 1983 B-movie called Wavelength, about a young couple who discover aliens being held by the US government for experimentation in an underground base in Laurel Canyon. In Haze’s words, the movie “drops hints about where to look when confronted with the Canyon conspiracy…
… Many of these musicians were involved in MK-Ultra, a known “mind-control” operation of the CIA, whose real focus was the spread of LSD through the Haight-Ashbury scene of San Francisco, to produce the 60s counter-culture scene, as per the dictates of the notorious Frankfurt School of psychologists.
The chief evangelist of the project was Aldous Huxley, the kingpin of the CIA’s subversion of culture, and author Brave New World, a dystopia about a society drugged into servitude.
Huxley also wrote The Doors of Perception, which exploded the fascination with the “mind-expanding” possibilities of drugs.
Jim Morrison, who named his band The Doors after the book, and one of the earliest to arrive on the Laurel Canyon scene, was the son of US Navy Admiral George Stephen Morrison, who was in command of the warships that purportedly came under Viet Cong attack, in the false-flag operation known as the Gulf of Tonkin incident of 1964.
Key to the CIA’s MK-Ultra operation was the soundman for the Grateful Dead, known as Owsley Stanley, or “Bear.” At only fifteen, he “voluntarily committed” himself to St. Elizabeth’s Hospital in Washington DC where, as Colin Ross explained in The CIA Doctors, Dr. Winfred Overholser Sr. funded LSD research through the Scottish Rite Committee and was at the center of the mind control network
St. Elizabeth’s is also where presidential assailants, serial killers or other federal cases are kept, such as Ezra Pound and John Hinckley, Jr. who shot Ronald Reagan.
After a stint in the US Air Force, beginning in 1956, Stanley moved to LA, where he worked at Pasadena’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, founded by Jack Parsons. Parsons was a leader of the Agape lodge, the American chapter of Aleister Crowley’s Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO), and also one of the first known contactees of the so-called “Nordic” aliens.
Likewise, Crowley claimed in 1919 to have contacted an extraterrestrial named Lam, which looked much like the iconic “greys” that have now come to be associated with alien contact.
Along with L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of Scientology, beginning in 1946, Parsons started the “Babalon Working,” a series of rituals designed to manifest an individual incarnation of the archetypal divine feminine called Babalon, and to conceive a child through sexual magic. Parsons wanted to create a Moonchild, as outlined in Crowley’s occult novel by the same name.
Parsons associated with Anton LaVey, the founder of the Church of Satan, who was also heavily influenced by Kenneth Anger, who enjoyed cult status in Hollywood as author of two controversialHollywood Babylon books, and as underground experimental filmmaker of Crowley-inspired films that merged surrealism with homoeroticism and the occult.
Anger became acquainted with notable countercultural figures, including Tennessee Williams, Keith Richards, Jimmy Page, Mick Jagger and his girlfriend Marianne Faithfull, which he involved in his Crowley-themed works, Invocation of My Demon Brother (1969) and Lucifer Rising (1972).
Anger also introduced Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page to Aleister Crowley, who became the owner of one of the world’s largest collections of Crowley memorabilia, including Crowley’s notorious Boleskine estate on the shores of Scotland’s Loch Ness.
As explained by Gary Lachman, founding member of the New Wave band Blondie, and now author, in Turn Off Your Mind: The Mystic Sixties and the Dark Side of the Age of Aquarius, “tales of pacts with the Devil followed Zeppelin throughout their career, and stories of orgies, black masses and satanic rites were commonplace, mostly centered around the infamous Chateau Marmont off the Sunset Strip.” Continue Reading
In fact, one of those who knew Manson better than most was Dennis Wilson of the Beach Boys. However, after originally saying that he knew fuck all about the murders, he had a change of heart but popped his clogs before he could spill the beans:
Dennis Wilson.
At some point in time, Wilson had a change of heart and decided that maybe he did indeed know a little something about the murders. “I know why Charles Manson did what he did,” said Dennis. “Someday, I’ll tell the world. I’ll write a book and explain why he did it.”
Needless to say, that book was never written and Wilson’s story, if indeed he had one, was never told. Instead, Dennis Wilson drowned under questionable circumstances on December 28, 1983, in the marina where his beloved ship was docked. Source
Course, Wilson was just one of many who had lived in Laurel Canyon and later died under mysterious circumstances.
Other notables include Harry Houdini, Natalie Wood, Jimi Hendrix, David Carradine, Mama Cass & Keith Moon, who both died in the very same room in a London flat owned by Harry Nilsson – who spent a lot of time drinking in Laurel Canyon with John Lennon. Source
Never the less, when Manson was asked about being mind-controlled in January 2013, he was either being coy, lying or he wasn’t mind-controlled at all:
There are rumors that Charles Manson was involved with the MK Ultra programs and also Phoenix programs through prisons.
The what programs? I don’t even know what that is.
A reference to the military involvement with the church of Satan?
Satan don’t have a church. He is the church. There is nobody but Satan- in Satan.
Why exactly the Tate-LaBianca murders? Why not other people?
There was other people, you just didn’t see it. You didn’t see but what they showed you. They only showed you what they wanted to controlyou with. You’re under control also.
I don’t know, this is a tough call. Should Charlie Manson still be in prison after 45 years?
Indeed, as far as I can make out the nearest he got to any murders was being at the LaBianca house before they were murdered – although that isn’t a Dog given certainty and if he was he had left before the killing began.
And fuck me, the American government are just as capable as the British government when it comes to stitching innocent people up.
I mean, I am told that Ian Huntley, Peter Sutcliffe and Jeremy Bamber were all stitched up and it would have been a lot easier to do it in 1969/70 than it would be in the eighties, nineties and the noughties.
I mean, when the US President declares that you are guilty before you’re even convicted – as Richard Nixon did – and the MSM spend two years portraying you as evil beyond belief then people are going to believe that… We all know that better than most.
The following is from the Release Charlie website and written by ‘Star’:
As I am sure you realize, Charles Manson is not the average inmate seeking parole. He does not play the act of a remorseful, beaten down soul (of which is a known requirement in order to be granted parole, regardless of guilt or innocence).
Manson is a self-aware political prisoner, whose trial and incarceration by the California Department of Corrections are, in fact, illegal according to the Constitution of the United States.
In recent years, there has been a significant increase in the number of “Manson supporters” worldwide, including people of all age groups, and all walks of life.
Each of these people see through the media-created image surrounding the true Charles Manson. What is the reason for this increased support? This man is honest, righteous, and a true servant to all life on planet Earth.
I began correspondence with Mr. Manson about six years ago. For the past three years, I have been in touch with him on a daily basis.
I know a handful of people who have known Manson for decades, and many others who’ve become familiar with him in recent years. Everyone who knows Charlie, knows that what is represented to be him on television, in movies and books, is completely fictional.
In other words, the “real-life” Charles Manson is nothing like what the media portrays him to be, and we who personally know the man, are sure of this.
That being said, Charlie is trapped in a ‘catch 22’ of sorts. You can’t tell anyone anything if they’ve already decided in their minds that you’re crazy. My goodness, what kind of a person would form such a solid opinion about a man, when all they know about him is what they’ve heard from the television?
Suppose someone took a photo of your grandfather and broadcast it over the evening news for two years in a row, saying negative things and weaving a fictional story in the minds of all the people who watched it.
No one’s going to believe you when you tell them that your grandfather is nothing like what they’ve been saying about him, even though YOU are the one who actually KNOWS HIM!
You cannot overcome the television in the minds of the masses. To quote General and President George Washington, “When one side only of a story is heard and often repeated, the human mind becomes impressed with it insensibly.”
At one point during Mansons’ 1997 parole hearing, he loudly stated, “I did not have anthing to do with killing those people, period!”
On a news special some years later, (complete with spooky background music) the video clip from the above mentioned instance was featured, conveniently, to show Manson saying, “killing those people”. This is a typical example of the untrue representation of my loved one, and I have seen it happen many, many times.
Over the years, I have become aware of countless evidence and proof that Mr. Manson was denied his rights in court, slandered and railroaded by the prosecution and the media, and has therefore spent the past forty years enduring heavy discrimination as a political prisoner.
Myself and others have been documenting and collecting this proof. At the same time, millions more people are becoming aware of these same facts by listening, for the first time, to the man who was not allowed a defense in the court which convicted him. Manson was denied his constitutional right of self representation.
The Court claimed the reason for this denial was due to “outlandish” and “nonsensical” motions. I am not bluffing when I say: let us review the COMPLETE trial transcripts, and we will see who was nonsensical, or shall I say, illegal.
Charlie was motioning, among other things, for the right to have access to the law library, to be allowed contact with his contemporaries on the outside, and for a gag order to be lifted, allowing him permission to personally communicate with the media. (Wouldn’t you want the chance to speak your side of the story?)
The attorney who prosecuted Manson, Vincent Bugliosi, has a documented history of perjury, fabricating evidence, coercing witnesses, and paying off more than just a few people in exchange for silence or a change of story.
His methods were no different in the way he achieved the conviction in the 1971 Tate-LaBianca murder trial, which in turn has gained him power and fortune.
My purpose in writing this is not to rehash all of the conspiracies and wrongdoings of the past, but rather, my message to you all is this: For Gods’ sake, let this man up!
If you recognize ANYTHING at all greater then yourselves, be it the Holy Ghost, Karma, or just plain morality, you must do right by Charles Manson.
He has unduly suffered a lifetime under idiocy, incompetence, and downright injustice. I believe whole-heartedly that, given the opportunity, Manson has a unique wisdom to offer our world society which is essential to the survival of the planet and its people.
You, whom I’ve addressed this letter to, you know that we are all in deep over our heads.
Charlie is my dear friend. I know him to be a gentle and concerned soul, who has no bad towards anyone. He has always walked a strict line of honor. He has never done harm to any innocent being!
Deep sorrow fills my heart because I cannot play music with Charlie. We can’t enjoy the forest together, or do anything but sit at a table in the prison visiting room, for that matter.
He is 76 years old this year of 2010. I reach out to the person who has the power to bring justice for him, however unconventional it may seem.
On my Life,
Star Source
Course, 45 years on and the press are still calling Manson a murderer. Indeed, today’s Chimps article declares it to be so in their headline:
Charles Manson’s fiancée vows she will still marry the 80-year-old murderer despite his prison licence running out
However, it has to be said that if Manson is innocent and was indeed stitched up, he certainly doesn’t do himself any favours with the show he puts on for the cameras.
And like I say, to me he comes across as being pure evil… But then again, what you see, is not always what you get.
Just sayin’.





















February 18, 2015 @ 2:43 am
From California, I was studying out of the USA at the time of the killings. Therefore, I was spared the hype. I regard Charlie Manson as a survivor. I don’t know what the truth really is, but I think Mr. Kanarek’s position sounds eminently reasonable. As for Mr. Polanski, he couldn’t keep a gal like Sharon Tate down on the farm. He forged connections with law enforcement during this time which stood him in good stead later on, with his own legal problems. Eh?
February 18, 2015 @ 5:43 am
Sharon and Roman went to Jamaica prior to her “murder”. The trunks in the hallway were delivered the day of her supposed demise. She had her wardrobe delivered in those trunks so she could pick out what clothes she wanted to take with her when she and Roman disappeared the next day as she would not have time to go shopping being so heavily preggo and was due shortly. Also if she was in hiding after she was murdered how does one go shopping for an entire wardrobe? Roman didn’t stick around very long after her funeral either and fled the country.
Manson was never famous for anything and craved the infamy that this incident brought him. He is not incarcerated. The photos you see with that idiot ugly “Star’ are in a hallway and not behind glass walls and are touching each other which is NOT allowed where he is supposedly incarcerated. And she would not have been given permission to see him in a contact visit like that.
Fake deaths are really boring. Anything the USA public will swallow. Just like Leon Brittan’s supposed death. Just WHEN it is that a jew is buried a whole fucking week later after mysteriously dying? Huh? And in a private funeral no less. Give me a break. That really stinks to high heaven. Whether he was a practicing jew or not…..they would have tossed him into the ground ASAP……why the delay? Having cancer and never telling anyone about it is truly unbelieveable as well. Gimme a break….the media in the UK are about as stupid as the media in the USA are…..run by the Rothchild’s and ordered to print what the fuck THEY say to print. And ordered to be dead when THEY say so.
BTW Cheryl – Charlie is NOT a survivor….he is an ACTOR period. Get over it.
Laurel Canyon is one of the best MK Ultra places in the world. Lots has been written about this. There was a series Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll by Wes Penre a few years ago that exposed Laurel Canyon and it’s residents to the light of day. It was a series of about 12 articles. Lookout Mountain is literally within view of the home Sharon and Roman rented….you know what Lookout Mountain specialized in don’t you? Movies. Movies that Hollywood could not produce. Where do you think they got all the crappy furniture from…Goodwill? And all the movie blood…..the Red Cross local blood drive? Nope. Lookout Mountain and their vast prop and wardrobe and set department came to the rescue.
February 18, 2015 @ 7:15 am
Lookout Mountain Laboratory was originally envisioned as an air defence center. Built in 1941 and nestled in two-and-a-half secluded acres off what is now Wonderland Park Avenue, the installation was hidden from view and surrounded by an electrified fence. By 1947, the facility featured a fully operational movie studio. In fact, it is claimed that it was perhaps the world’s only completely self-contained movie studio. With 100,000 square feet of floor space, the covert studio included sound stages, screening rooms, film processing labs, editing facilities, an animation department, and seventeen climate-controlled film vaults. It also had underground parking, a helicopter pad and a bomb shelter.
Over its lifetime, the studio produced some 19,000 classified motion pictures – more than all the Hollywood studios combined. Officially, the facility was run by the U.S. Air Force and did nothing more nefarious than process AEC footage of atomic and nuclear bomb tests. The studio, however, was clearly equipped to do far more than just process film. There are indications that Lookout Mountain Laboratory had an advanced research and development department that was on the cutting edge of new film technologies. Such technological advances as 3-D effects were apparently first developed at the Laurel Canyon site. And Hollywood luminaries like John Ford, Jimmy Stewart, Howard Hawks, Ronald Reagan, Bing Crosby, Walt Disney and Marilyn Monroe were given clearance to work at the facility on undisclosed projects. There is no indication that any of them ever spoke of their work at the clandestine studio.
The facility retained as many as 250 producers, directors, technicians, editors, animators, etc., both civilian and military, all with top security clearances – and all reporting to work in a secluded corner of Laurel Canyon. The existence of the facility remained unknown to the general public until the early 1990s, though it had long been rumored that the CIA operated a secret movie studio somewhere in or near Hollywood.
Laurel Canyon (from Dave McGowan)- http://chrisspivey.org/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=170&t=1012&p=4050&hilit=Lookout#p4050
February 18, 2015 @ 8:57 am
The Evolution of Project MKULTRA
With the CIA and National Security Council firmly established, the first in a series of covert brain-washing programs was initiated by the Navy in the fall of 1947.
Project CHATTER was developed in response to the Soviet’s “successes” through the use of “truth drugs.” This rationale, however was simply a cover story if the program were to be exposed. The research focused on the identification and testing of such drugs for use in interrogations and the recruitment of agents. The project was officially terminated in 1953.
The CIA decided to expand their efforts in the area of behavior modification, with the advent of Project BLUEBIRD, approved by director Allen Dulles in 1950.
Its objectives were to:
(1) discover a means of conditioning personnel to prevent unauthorized extraction of information from them by known means
(2) investigate the possibility of control of an individual by application of special interrogation techniques
(3) investigate memory enhancement
(4) establish defensive means for preventing hostile control of agency personnel
In August 1951, Project BLUE BIRD was renamed Project ARTICHOKE, which evaluated offensive uses of interrogation techniques, including hypnosis and drugs. The program ceased in 1956. Three years prior to the halt of Project ARTICHOKE, Project MK-ULTRA came into existence on April 13, 1953 along the lines proposed by Richard Helms, Deputy Director of Central Intelligence (DDCI) with the rationale of establishing a “special funding mechanism of extreme sensitivity.”
The hypothetical etymology of “MK” may possibly stand for “Mind Kontrolle.” The obvious translation of the German word “Kontrolle” into English is “control.” A host of German doctors, procured from the post war Nazi talent pool, were an invaluable asset toward the development of MKULTRA. The correlation between the concentration camp experiments and the numerous sub-projects of MKULTRA are clearly evident.
The various avenues used to control human behavior under MKULTRA included:
radiation
electroshock
psychology
psychiatry
sociology
anthropology
graphology
harassment substances
paramilitary devices
materials “LSD” being the most widely dispensed “material”
A special procedure, designated MKDELTA, was established to govern the use of MKULTRA abroad. MKULTRA/DELTA materials were used for harassment, discrediting or disabling purposes.
There were 149 subprojects listed under the umbrella of MKULTRA. Project MONARCH has not been officially identified by any government documentation as one of the corresponding subprojects, but is used rather, as a descriptive “catch phrase” by survivors, therapists, and possible “insiders.”
MONARCH may in fact, have culminated from MKSEARCH subprojects such as operation SPELLBINDER, which was set up to create “sleeper” assassins (ie. “Manchurian candidates”) who could be activated upon receiving a key word or phrase while in a post-hypnotic trance.
Operation OFTEN, a study which attempted to harness the power of occultic forces was possibly one of several cover programs to hide the insidious reality of Project MONARCH.
The name MONARCH is not necessarily defined within the context of royal nobility, but rather refers to the monarch butterfly.
When a person is undergoing trauma induced by electroshock, a feeling of light-headedness is evidenced; as if one is floating or fluttering like a butterfly. There is also a symbolic representation pertaining to the transformation or metamorphosis of this beautiful insect: from a caterpillar to a cocoon (dormancy, inactivity), to a butterfly (new creation) which will return to its point of origin. Such is the migratory pattern that makes this species unique.
Occultic symbolism may give additional insight into the true meaning Psyche is the word for both “soul” and “butterfly” coming from the belief that human souls become butterflies while searching for a new reincarnation.
Some ancient mystical groups, such as the Gnostics, saw the butterfly as a symbol of corrupt flesh. The “Angel of Death” (remember Mengele?) in Gnostic art was portrayed crushing the butterfly.
A marionette is a puppet that is attached to strings and is controlled by the puppet master, hence MONARCH programming is also referred to as the “Marionette Syndrome.” “Imperial Conditioning” is another term used, while some mental health therapists know it as “Conditioned Stimulus Response Sequences.”
Project MONARCH could be best described as a form of structured dissociation and occultic integration, in order to compartmentalize the mind into multiple personalities within a systematic framework. During this process, a Satanic ritual, usually including Cabalistic mysticism, is performed with the purpose of attaching a particular demon or group of demons to the corresponding alter(s).
MK Ultra & the CIA – http://chrisspivey.org/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=2589&start=10#p11261
February 18, 2015 @ 9:02 am
“Heading MKULTRA was a CIA chemist named Sidney Gottlieb. In congressional testimony, Gottlieb, who died in 1999, acknowledged that the agency had administered LSD to as many as 40 unwitting subjects, including prison inmates and patrons of brothels set up and run by the agency [CIA]. At least one participant died when he jumped out of a 10th-floor window in a hotel; others claimed to have suffered serious psychological damage.”
— Washington Post article on key figure involved in Project MK-ULTRA, 6/16/05
Thanks to the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), government documents dealing with Project MKULTRA and other secret mind control programs are now available to the public. In 1973, tipped off about forthcoming congressional investigations, CIA Director Richard Helms ordered the destruction of all MKULTRA records. Fortunately, 20,000 pages worth of MKULTRA documents contained in the CIA’s financial records were overlooked. Though only a small fraction of the original documentation, these surviving documents reveal highly disturbing operations in which unknowing citizens were subjected not only to LSD, but also to radiation, lethal biological agents, and even torture for reasons of “national security.”
Before reading the Washington Post article below, here are a number of sentences from an FOIA document written by the Inspector General of the CIA about MKULTRA. To read the original document online, click here.
“The concepts involved in manipulating behavior are found by many people both within and outside the Agency [CIA] to be distasteful and unethical. Nevertheless, there have been major accomplishments both in research and operational employment. Many additional avenues to the control of human behavior have been designated under the MKULTRA charter, including radiation, electro-shock, and harassment substances.
“Some activities raise questions of legality implicit in the original charter. A final phase of the testing places the rights and interests of US citizens in jeopardy. [Project MKULTRA] has pursued a philosophy of minimum documentation in keeping with the high sensitivity of the projects. Some files contained little or no data at all. There are just two individuals who have full knowledge of the MKULTRA program, and most of that knowledge is unrecorded.”
ht tp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/15/AR2005061502685.html
February 18, 2015 @ 9:17 am
Created by the CIA in Saigon in 1967, Phoenix was a program aimed at “neutralizing”—through assassination, kidnapping, and systematic torture—the civilian infrastructure that supported the Viet Cong insurgency in South Vietnam. The CIA destroyed its copies of these documents, but the creator of Phoenix gave his personal copies to author Douglas Valentine.
“So, I volunteered for this Operation Phoenix, which was a psychological operation. To make a long story short, it would make Charlie Manson look like Abigail Van Buren. It was basically a psychological operation, and it was very well done. Americans have done it many times before and in essence we did it inadvertently in Libya. The theory is you don’t kill the leader, you kill his children, or his family. Basically, what you do is you destroy the chief’s family very ignominiously, and I mean ignominiously. I mean, Charlie Manson would look like a “sweetie” compared to what this stuff was. And so when the guy comes back, he sees this mess — you know his wife beheaded, and her infant child stripped out of her abdomen, and beheaded and bleeding on her body, hung from a rafter, shit all over the walls, those kind of things — that’s how you do it. And when that happens, then these guys lose confidence in themselves, and the village loses confidence in them, but they’re not martyrs. So the whole operation loses its fighting will. And that’s basically “The American Way.” [1993 Interview with Dr. Alan Levin.] Modern Medicine and its Military Links
CIA’s Operation Phoenix – http://chrisspivey.org/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=75&t=1690#p6845
February 18, 2015 @ 9:22 am
The Central Intelligence Agency conducted a 14-year program to find ways to “control human behavior” through the use of chemical, biological and radiological material, according to agency documents made public by John Marks. The documents … suggested broader experimentation on unwitting humans by the intelligence agency or its paid researchers than had been publicly known before. Mr. Marks distributed 20 documents that described the following incidents, among others: In 1956, the CIA contracted with a private physician to test “bulbocapnine,” a drug that can cause stupor or induce a catatonic state, on monkeys and “convicts incarcerated at” an unnamed state penitentiary. A letter from an unnamed CIA official in 1949 discussed ways of killing people without leaving a trace. “I believe that there are two chemical substances which would be most useful in that they would leave no characteristic pathological findings,” the letter said.
The CIA conducted secret medical experiments from 1949 through 1963 under the code names Bluebird, Artichoke, MK Ultra and MK Delta.
February 18, 2015 @ 10:23 am
Bearing in mind that Gottlieb once gave a mental patient in Kentucky LSD continuously for 174 days, I’d say that IF Manson is in prison, he could well be stark staring mad. From the info provided by twinkiedooter, that is a big IF too!
The court case was a travesty, that is obvious from the info on mileswmathis.com. If he wasn’t physically involved, his sentence makes no sense. Whether he gave the orders or not seems irrelevant too, judging by the lack of prosecutions against cottager Blair and cheerleader Bush.
February 18, 2015 @ 10:20 pm
Excellent MK ULTRA info. There was some detail there I had not read before. Thanks Dogman.
P.S During my reading I found out that the CIA killed that MK ULTRA scientist Frank Olson who “fell” out of the window on LSD because he was having ethical misgivings about the non consensual human experimentation the CIA was doing.
February 19, 2015 @ 10:24 am
Thanks aardwolfx. There’s plenty about Operation Phoenix on the link below, although how it ties in to Manson is dubious, if the so called “Tate murders” were faked. Was he a patsy, willing or otherwise? Is he really incarcerated?
ht tp://www.whale.to/b/phoenix1.html
February 19, 2015 @ 10:32 am
From 2009.
The U.S. Supreme Court justices appears likely to grant convicted burglar Gregory Holt’s request to have a half-inch (1.3 cm) beard in accordance with his religious beliefs. But the justices seemed unsure where to draw the line over whether prison officials could have valid reasons for banning longer beards, which could lead to a narrow ruling. Holt says the state’s prison grooming policy prohibiting inmates from having facial hair other than a “neatly trimmed mustache” violated his religious rights under a 2000 federal law called the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act. Holt said he understands that statement to mean he should grow a full beard, but offered a half-inch beard as a compromise because California allows Muslim inmates to wear beards of that length.
The case is Holt v. Hobbs, 13-6827.
This backs up what twinkiedooter has already told us, so, how does Manson warrant special dispensation to grow a beard?
February 18, 2015 @ 10:26 am
Charles Manson obviously knows a lot more than what he’s letting on who btw my daughter’s ex boyfriends brother creepily looks very much like him in fact he could be his ‘doppelganger’. Laurel Canyon was inhabited by the local Tongva tribe of Native Californians before the arrival of the Spanish.In 1950 under the Eisenhower policy of ‘Assimilation’ of Native Ameerican Tribes the’18 lost treaties’of the Gabrielino-Tongva were terminated.Apparently there was also similarities of Kung Fu and Kill Bill fame star David Carradine [died 2009] and rock star Michael Hutchence [died 1997 and who also had affair with Paula Yates]-[ had a daughter Tigerlily]-Bob Geldof springs to mind there they!!!!!! both died from ‘Exotic Strangulation’ a kinky way to have sex-though obviously i don’t know as i should imagine there’s few who’ve lived to tell the tale.lol.Also located in the Laurel Canyon area is a log cabin which one of it’s residents may have been Harry Houdini and was once owned by silent star Tom Mix.Another connection to Laurel Canyon is Mulholland Drive which is situated in this locality to which a film was made by the same name in 2002.In the 60’s this was the in-place to be at for many musicians Jim Morrison-The Byrds-Crosby Stills and Nash Joni Mitchell-John Phillip
February 18, 2015 @ 11:00 am
By creating a television series called Kung Fu and a movie called Return of the Dragon, Warner Brothers introduces Hong Kong-style kung fu movies to Hollywood. Bruce Lee starred in the latter movie, and he was originally offered the starring role in Kung Fu. However, after auditioning, Lee was turned down for the role because the producer, Jerry Thorpe, didn’t think that Lee spoke English well enough. The result was that dancer David Carradine, whom Chuck Norris has said does martial arts about as well as Norris acts, got the role instead.
History of Martial Arts & Combative Sports – http://chrisspivey.org/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=3057&p=13363&hilit=DAVID+CARRADINE#p13363
Source – ht tp://ejmas.com/kronos/NewHist1940.htm (off topic but a very interesting read)
February 18, 2015 @ 11:10 am
Schacter and Singer Dogman. The role of ignorance and knowledge. IE That knowledge can be a defence. The Schacter and Singer method is exactly akin to the treatment regimes used at Ipswich by J W Paulley and J G Howells. And it isn’t much of a leap to see how J G Howells research theories, salutiferous society via vector therapy, influenced sociology doctrine and social work practice.
I would think at some point the psycho researchers decided that family therapy for society as a whole needed a bigger family. Hence the invention of “Communities” and the theory that communities have vectors of interaction with other communities. And when these theoretical vectors involve crime then it has a label called “Hate crime”.
Has no one ever wondered about TV interviews “We are at the scene with community spokesman Billy No Mates No One Ever Heard of Im before”. And Billy will deliver the required wisdom “Blacks are dah dah per cent more likely to be stopped by police than whites” or “We are a multicultural society and the community here are opposed to the EDL” or “The police have made no progress on their institutionalised racism”.
The one I enjoy lately is that attention is being drawn to the history of white slavery such as British slaves in the West Indies and America. A community spokesman said “We the black community know that white supremacists are seizing on the history of white slavery …” Notice how the truth of the history is not disputed. But the implicit message is that the truth should not be used to attack the black power version of history and their myths of collective white guilt and institutionalised racism.
Booker T was saying over a hundred years ago to black people “Don’t fall for it” If you accept the crutch they proffer, the blame and self sympathy culture, you volunteer to be a cripple. Multiculturalism was invented by slave owners to divide white slaves from black slaves to stop them making a common cause for freedom.
Now look at the efforts to conceal the corruption that informed the Lawrence Inquiry.
February 19, 2015 @ 10:24 am
RICHARD: ”………….Multiculturalism was invented by slave owners to divide white slaves from black slaves to stop them making a common cause for freedom……………..”
A political philosophy that serves the PTB admirably. Think Bosnia.
February 18, 2015 @ 12:17 pm
I have no idea about Manson, but Sutcliffe was arrested disposing of evidence and corroborating evidence involving painstaking detective work such as dental and bite marks, petrol receipts, semen, blood, even bank notes, beyond reasonable doubt imo as for huntley painstaking prosecution work dismantled all his lies tbh im astonished people have doubts
February 18, 2015 @ 1:18 pm
There are plenty of iffy verdicts and unsolved crimes, please all feel free to add your own info to the forum.
Unsolved Crimes & Suspicious Deaths – http://chrisspivey.org/forum2/viewforum.php?f=322
February 18, 2015 @ 1:35 pm
i do believe from the supporting evidence this particular case was not unsolved, there was forensic evidence and a confession, not sure how that could be construed here as iffy, yes there have been miscarriages of justice historically, but i’m personally convinced of Huntley’s guilt as during a tv interview before his arrest, he inadvertently stated he was the last person to see both girls alive, something he couldn’t possibly have know, i recall turning to my husband and saying it was him at the time, opportunity, motive, confession, forensics, availability, personality and offender profile all pointed to him alone, imo, look forward to hearing more on this particular case if anyone has further websites or articles pointing towards Huntleys innocence, i’m always ready to have my eyes opened if all is not as it seems
February 18, 2015 @ 5:22 pm
Bella, ‘Programmed to kill’ by David McGowan is an eye opening book about well known serial killers. Essentially, there is a lot more to the ‘lone killer’ than the simple profile given and other ‘invisible accomplices’ who are involved…..
February 18, 2015 @ 1:50 pm
Can we keep the Huntley story to the forum please.
Who Murdered Holly Wells And Jessica Chapman? – http://chrisspivey.org/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=322&t=1176
February 18, 2015 @ 3:00 pm
of course, sorry Dogman
February 18, 2015 @ 3:22 pm
Don’t worry bella, but it is all too easy to get led off elsewhere. I’m sure that Manson is being paraded in front of us for a reason and I think we need to consider what it could be.
x
February 18, 2015 @ 1:15 pm
Star can marry him now and he is not in prison. I feel another White Widow coming on. Hasn’t the actor got smooth skin. Nicely botoxed. Amazing how he looks younger now than at the time of the alleged strange and peculiar murders. The pictures are a weird colour, deliberately blurred and they are all posing. It reminds me of a murky 60s photoshoot minus Twiggy. The psychopathic monsters who dream up this shit are inhuman Luciferian Viral cocksuckers and deserve what is coming to them. Their downfall is on its way.
February 18, 2015 @ 2:24 pm
chris look into the arnold schwarzenegger and lord lucan connection its quite interesting story…..
February 18, 2015 @ 2:35 pm
shane, please post it on the forum. Interesting theory, but off topic.
Unsolved Crimes & Suspicious Deaths – http://chrisspivey.org/forum2/viewforum.php?f=322
February 18, 2015 @ 3:18 pm
Manson invited Susan Atkins to join what became known as his “family” in 1967. She was given the name Sadie Mae Glutz and came to view Manson as Jesus Christ. Prosecutors said Manson’s goal was to hasten what he saw as an inevitable race war — which he called “Helter Skelter” after a song on the Beatles’ White Album that he viewed as prophetic — and to emerge as leader of the post-apocalyptic world. Atkins helped carry out the killing spree that Manson hoped would trigger the war.
Atkins testified in 1971 that, high on LSD, she stabbed Tate: “She kept begging and pleading and begging and pleading, so I stopped it.” She changed her story at a 1993 parole hearing, saying she guarded the tied-up actress but didn’t kill her.
The night after the Tate murders, Manson followers murdered two more people, Leno and Rosemary LaBianca. The two-night, seven-victim spree became known as the Tate-LaBianca murders.
Arrested in October 1969 on unrelated charges, Ms. Atkins bragged in prison about her involvement in Tate-LaBianca. Informants tipped off police. In front of a grand jury, Ms. Atkins confessed her role and implicated Manson and his followers. She later recanted, but the prosecution proceeded. In 1971, a jury in Los Angeles convicted Manson, Atkins and two other women in the murders, then voted to send them to die in California’s gas chamber. Protesting the sentence, Atkins yelled out, “It’s going to come down hard. Lock your doors. Protect your kids.” She was later convicted for her role in a killing that took place weeks before the Tate-LaBianca murders.
Funny how they start wagging Manson in our faces at the same time as “supposed” muslim terrorist acts are going on.
February 18, 2015 @ 3:28 pm
In a controversial and courageous speech held in 1992, well-respected author and psychologist Dr. Cory Hammond delved deeper into the process of MMC (Monarch Mind Control) shedding light on how exactly the process works. His research was founded in speaking to fellow therapists and specifically recommended clients across the country, identifying a number of common brainwashing techniques. Here are some key excerpts from his talk:
When you find the same highly esoteric information in different states from Florida to California and from different countries, you start to get an idea that there’s something going on that is very large and very well coordinated. So I have gone from someone not knowing what to think about it all to someone who clearly believes ritual abuse is real.
What they basically do in these programs is they get a child and start programming in basic forms, it appears, by about age two and a half, after the child’s already been made dissociative. They’ll make him dissociative not only through abuse, like sexual abuse, but also things like putting a mousetrap on their fingers and teaching the parents, “You do not go in until the child stops crying. Only then do you go in and remove it.” They start in rudimentary forms at about age two and a half and kick into high gear, it appears, around six or six and a half. They continue through adolescence with periodic reinforcements in adulthood.
“What’s the purpose of it?” My best guess is that they want an army of Manchurian Candidates, tens of thousands of mental robots who will do prostitution, child pornography, smuggle drugs, engage in international arms smuggling, do snuff films, and all sorts of other very lucrative things. These Manchurian Candidates will do the bidding of their masters, so that eventually the megalomaniacs at the top believe they can create a Satanic Order that will rule the world.
One of the most powerful examples Dr. Hammond also brought up in his talk was the findings of Bernard Diamond, who had worked with Sirhan Sirhan, the individual incarcerated since 1969 for the murder of Robert F. Kennedy. To this day Sirhan has total amnesia of the act of killing Kennedy, but when under hypnosis is able to remember it all in great detail. Lee Harvey Oswald, Sirhan-Sirhan, Charlie Manson, John Hinckley Jr., Mark Chapman, David Koresh, Tim McVeigh and John Salvi are some notable names of infamy, strongly suspected of being pawns who were spawned by MKULTRA – Ron Patton
It is also worth noting that shortly after delivering this speech, Dr. Hammond completely stopped all research and talks on the subject. The primary reasoning: the alarming number of threats (including death threats) that he had received in response to his revelations.
February 18, 2015 @ 3:42 pm
The Tate / LaBianca Forums provides an excellent resource and discussion site for people wanting to learn more about the Charles Manson murders – ht tp://truthontatelabianca.com/forums/the-labiancas.531/
Feel free to have a look and post any relevant info
February 18, 2015 @ 3:50 pm
Snuff Movies.
In 1971, filmmakers Michael and Roberta Findlay helmed a production in Argentina called Slaughter, a modest little film that was made for a little over thirty thousand dollars. Although various sources have cited it as an unfinished production, it did have a brief theatrical run.
Slaughter did its best to exploit the still-steaming remains of the Manson Family’s involvement with the Tate/La Bianca murders, although much artistic license is taken.
In 1972, Allan Shackleton, a research engineer-turned-film producer had bought the world distribution rights for Slaughter through his Monarch Releasing Corporation, a distribution house that specialized in sexploitation fare.
On December 1, 1975, Allan Shackleton sent out the first of several press releases aimed to pique the public’s interest. Unfortunately for him, Michael Findlay caught sight of it and immediately realized that it was his film Slaughter (now retitled under the more succinct, monosyllabic moniker Snuff) that was behind the escalating furor.
Snuff opened January 16, 1976, and was met by as many curiosity seekers as ardent protesters. Theaters were besieged by staunch feminists, egged by angry picketers, and unnerved by bomb threats. Instead of deterring would-be ticket buyers, though, the furor only fanned the flames of public interest. In the first week of its New York run, Snuff grossed $66,000 and outsold such hits as One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest for three weeks straight (Smith 1982).
The controversy finally caught the attention of the legal system, forcing the film to carry a disclaimer that clearly stated that no one was harmed during the production of said film. Reluctantly, Shackleton went along with it but eventually recounted his admittance, reverting to his statement that the public should be left to decide Snuff’s authenticity for themselves.
The Los Angeles Police Department did an investigation into the phenomenon and admitted that they could not find even the slightest evidence that snuff films actually existed. Linda Lovelace, star of the groundbreaking adult film Deep Throat (1972), testified to the U.S. Attorney General’s Commission on Organized Crime that “women acting in porn films were being murdered on camera or after filming when they were deemed of no further use” (Kerekes 1995). The rumours about Snuff movies supposedly started here. But if you delve into investigating paedo networks, you’ll find people that say they do exist!
February 18, 2015 @ 4:10 pm
Vincent Bugliosi — the prosecutor in the Manson case — wrote a very popular book called “Helter Skelter.” In that book we read on Page 635 in extract:
“I knew too, both from his prison records and from my conversations with him, that Manson’s involvement with Scientology had been more than a passing fad. Manson told me, as he had Paul Watkins, that he had reached the highest state, “theta clear,” and no longer had any connection with or need for Scientology.”
Note the ethics of Bugliosi. Didn’t miss a chance to make a buck. Dollars, the great american religion!
February 19, 2015 @ 11:26 am
Hello Dogman, I have only recently joined this site, but I’m loving a lot of content. This may not be following the rules, as such, but I am very curious if maybe you could point me in a fairly reliable direction which would inform me about Snuff movies, and the alleged possibility of their existence? You very much seem to know your stuff. I promise, i’ll leave you alone after that, and keep any questions I have in the forums in the future.
Thanks awfully.
February 19, 2015 @ 12:30 pm
According to “The Franklin Cover-up,” by former Congressman John DeCamp, Hunter S. Thompson…was part of an elaborate child pornography ring linked to the Bohemian Grove during the 80’s. The book describes how Hunter S. Thompson was offered $100,000 to make snuff films during ritualized child sex abuse at the Bohemian Grove.
A British Customs officer is said to have seized an obscene videotape from Brittan. The tape was reportedly made in Holland, and may be linked to Russell Tricker, who trafficked British children to Holland for pornography. Tricker, in turn, has been linked to Warren Spinks, as well as a man named Pete Mayer/Mair who reportedly killed at least one child in a snuff film.
http://youtu.be/SeAc6UwfOuM?t=7m30s
Kate Short, founder of Kilmarnock-based childhood abuse charity, Break the Silence, said: “In the worst cases (people) have been forced to watch the making of snuff movies. It’s the extreme, barbaric type of terror that can lead to serious personal disorder.”
Kate also said, often brothers and sisters are made to have sex with each other, and that animals are also involved.
She added: “This is something that has been going on forever and I can’t see it ever stopping.”
The claims were reported by the Scottish Sunday Express.
Scotland is the only part of the UK which doesn’t currently have an investigation into historic child sexual abuse.
Another leading charity, Dundee-based Izzy’s Promise, also backed the claims. Project co-ordinator Joseph Lumbasi said: “Eighty per cent of people who contact us are brought up right here in Scotland. Children are born that are never registered. There is pornography, sick films. Horrific things are happening and nobody is getting caught.”
Italian police seized 3,000 of Kuznetsov’s videos on their way to clients in Italy, sparking an international hunt for paedophiles who have bought his products. The Italian investigators say the material includes footage of children dying during abuse. Prosecutors in Naples are considering charging those who have bought the videos with complicity in murder. They say some may have specifically requested films of killings. …..Covert film of young children naked or undressing was known as a ‘SNIPE’ video. The most appalling category was code-named ‘Necros Pedo’ in which children were raped and tortured until they died.
ht tps://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/soc.culture.ukrainian/NXvMGNsT434/A5ipcIIE8LUJ
http://chrisspivey.org/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=118&t=1659&hilit=snuff#p6737
February 18, 2015 @ 4:21 pm
Now ‘having slept’ on these Charlie Manson issues, I think I have some more to say. But I still maintain Manson is a “survivor”, even if he has been part of a fraud. It hasn’t been a cakewalk. But a Key Figure here who has not been discussed is the former District Attorney prosecutor and best-selling author Vincent Bugliosi — definitely part of the overall picture, and the over-arching ‘agenda’ of this entire psyop, if that’s what it was. A race war in the USA has been planned for 50 years. Even though it has yet to take place, it has always been a card in the deck, waiting to be played (race card, get it?). Bugliosi wrote the Number #1 “biggest-selling true crime book in publishing history with over 7 million copies sold” (Wikipedia) – “HELTER SKELTER”. Manson’s purported crimes were supposed to be the fuse for a replay of the August 1965 Watts Riots in Los Angeles, only worse. The phrase “Helter Skelter” originates with that agenda. Later on, Bugliosi as a retired prosecutor and full-time crime writer, refused to revisit in book form the frame-up of convicted murderer Jeffrey MacDonald (the doctor whose family was slaughtered in a Phoenix-like raid). He stated he believed MacDonald was guilty. Bugliosi has also backed-up the Warren Commission findings that Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunman. Controlled opposition describes Bugliosi well; while calling for the impeachment of George W. Bush for the death of 4,000 American soldiers in Iraq who were ordered to war by the Commander-in-Chief under false pretenses. I’m interested to see where he will pop up next. He’s only 70. I appreciate everyone’s references to the deep Monarch connections of Laurel Canyon, but let’s give credit to the original truth-finding author of the original 20-part series (2008-2012 – ht tp://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/), Dave McGowan, whose further research was cut short when he signed a publishing deal which effectively silenced him, contractually, in order to issue a very unsatisfactory treatment of the material five long years later in 2014, title: “Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon”. But Charlie Manson, as an archtypal figure on which to hang tomorrow’s ‘American Civil War Redux,’ is very valuable to the NWO. All the carefully planted news articles about him and Star are part of the game. My analysis is now concluded. Thank you.
February 18, 2015 @ 6:13 pm
When rigor mortis sets in, the face can look like it is smiling.
February 18, 2015 @ 6:27 pm
At the time of the Manson ‘murders’ i was busy following the ‘hippie’ culture to which before you had the mods and rockers and hands up who remembers ‘The Beatnik’?.The ‘Hippie’ culture was a new phenomena ‘make love not war’ motto-to which i was confused with so much happening in music and fashion it made your head spin-with LSD the tripping drug being the new fashion at the same time-with also the introduction of the pill late 60’s-early 70’s.Also i remember during this time there were many Musicians Singers & Rock Stars and Actors who either used to appear to die from drug/alcohol or suicide related deaths.I was to busy at the time to dot connect therefore believing anything what the msm were spewing out.As people were more trust worthy in those days life appeared more acceptable and laid back.I obviously didn’t realise it at the time but now wouldn’t be surprised iff the LSD drug was purposely infiltrated to be used as a mask to blame for popstar and actors/actresses deaths which after reading the investigation into their demise looks extremely suspicious indeed…………..xx
February 18, 2015 @ 7:21 pm
In December 1968, Charles Manson heard this song, as well as others from , and interpreted them as a warning of an approaching race war. He saw the Beatles as the four angels mentioned in the New Testament book of Revelation and believed their songs were telling him and his followers to prepare themselves. Manson referred to this future war as “Helter Skelter,” and tried to ignite it by sending his followers to invade two homes and murder the inhabitants, making it look like the work of the Black Panthers.
The word “Pig” was written in blood at the crime scenes, and the phrase “Healter Skelter” (a misspelling of the Beatles song) was scrawled at the second home, the one belonging to The Labiancas.
Because of this connection, Los Angeles assistant District Attorney Vincent Bugliosi, who led the prosecution of Manson and the other killers, named his best-selling book about the murders Helter Skelter. Bugliosi’s book was the basis for a film of the same title.
In an interview with Lennon in the January 1971 edition of Rolling Stone, the former Beatle was asked about his reaction to Manson’s deluded interpretation of this song. Lennon replied: “He’s balmy, like any other Beatle-kind of fan who reads mysticism into it. We used to have a laugh about this, that or the other, in a light-hearted way, and some intellectual would read us, some symbolic youth generation wants to see something in it. We also took seriously some parts of the role, but I don’t know what ‘Helter Skelter’ has to do with knifing somebody. I’ve never listened to the words, properly, it was just a noise.”
As for Manson, he disputed Bugliosi’s interpretation of the Helter Skelter theory he used to prosecute the case, telling Rolling Stone, “that doesn’t even make insane sense.”
February 18, 2015 @ 8:20 pm
Why don’t a good looking woman befriend Phil Spectre, who I am sure is in the same nick as Charlie and ask if the crazy bastard is actually in there.
Some great info you dish out DM, I have now stopped buying the papers and listening to the news. Not forgetting the rest of you all.
I just do not have a fucking clue as to what is real or not, why the fuck did I poke my head down the rabbit hole life was a lot less stressful being ignorant.
February 18, 2015 @ 9:20 pm
Miles Mathieson has this one covered here:
ht tp://mileswmathis.com/tate.pdf
February 18, 2015 @ 10:59 pm
Just a small question but how are photos of dead naked corpses laid out on hospital tables for autopsy or whatever, obtained such as in the case of David Carradine shown above?
Are all photos of corpses of people who have died from unnatural causes always freely available to the public via library records or internet?
I would have thought they would be private but maybe that’s my misunderstanding.
February 19, 2015 @ 1:35 pm
Correction to my post – I didn’t mean to imply, in discussing Bugliosi, that his stance calling for the impeachment of George W. Bush was wrong. No, I wish it had happened! And I wish the U.S. Congress had the ‘Helter Skelter’ to face down Obama in the same way. But I think Bugliosi was only trying to redeem himself, ingratiate himself, in the minds of the thinking public whom the NWO knows is against them. This was to muddy the waters, so that in his next foray, Bugliosi will pack’em in again. Comment re Lennon interview, denying meaning to the Beatles songs. Lennon was just as full of C.R.A.P. as the rest of them are, frankly. Good God, we should all realize by now that the CIA ‘pushed’ the Beatles into fame as a social control psyop, and the whole songwriting schtick was a myth. Agenda. Agenda. Agenda. Look at the creeps behind the curtain in the Land of Oz.
February 27, 2015 @ 6:04 pm
Eye opening. I noticed that the ‘Prison Pictures’ of Manson looks almost like a little fashion show. A watch in one photo, a bracelet in another, a little scarf round the neck here and a little bead necklace round the neck there.Not forgetting the standard ‘Shall I put the sunglasses on indoors or leave them off? look that fashion shoots always demand. Also, I’m curious about the beard as it’s my understanding they’re not allowed in prison but anyway, did he grow it miraclulously overnight or did he get it cut? Because I don’t think that a man who has grown a beard and taken such pride in it that he put beads along the end of it would want to get it cut just to look smart for a photo shoot. ‘Curiouser and curiouser’ said Alice!
February 28, 2015 @ 8:24 am
Hi Caroline, apparently 43 states and the federal prison system allow beards — many without any limit at all on the length of beard. I am looking for confirmation of California’s rules, but as I posted above, California allows Muslim inmates to wear beards of half an inch.